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Zeitgeist : http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-594683847743189197

 

Addendum - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7065205277695921912

 

 

I thought there was a thread on this, but I can't find one !

 

I'll add some more info later.

 

 

h'mmm, I haven't come across the addendum before, just watching it now.

 

cheers. :)

 

edited - I like this quote:

'None are more hopelessly enslaved, than those who falsely believe they are free' Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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Zeitgeist : http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-594683847743189197

 

Addendum - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7065205277695921912

 

 

I thought there was a thread on this, but I can't find one !

 

I'll add some more info later.

 

Yea yea...you just want all the glory :lol:thead here

 

Btw Bubb started a thread on the Venus project 2 1/2 years ago!! :lol:

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Yea yea...you just want all the glory :lol:thead here

 

Btw Bubb started a thread on the Venus project 2 1/2 years ago!! :lol:

 

That's flipping weird. I did a search because I thought there was one, but didn't find it.

I almost added a comment "I bet someone will point to it" :lol:

 

Ahhh well, it's got more viewers in, so it's all good :D

 

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Here's another one. mentioned just now in another thread:

 

The Money Masters - How International Bankers Gained Control of America - 215 min - Mar 27, 2007

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936

 

I watched the first few seconds to make sure it wasnt the monkeys story again.

The guys name is B. Still :lol:

On my to watch list

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I know Im going to regret this, but whos the fella at the start of the movie - the indian fella :

 

What I am saying is how very important it is, to bring about in the human mind, the radical revolution.

The crisis, is a crisis in consciousness. A crisis that cannot anymore accept the old norms, the old patterns,

the ancient traditions.

 

And considering what the world is now, with all the misery, conflict, destructive brutality,

aggression, and so on, man is still as he was. He's still brutal, violent, aggressive, acquisitive, competitive.

AND, He's built a society along these lines.

 

Society today is composed of a series of institutions, from political institutions,

legal institutions, religious is, to institutions of social class, familiar values, and occupational

specialization.

 

It is obvious that the profound influence these traditional'ized' structures have in shaping our understanding and perspectives.

 

 

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Zeitgeist : http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-594683847743189197

 

Addendum - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7065205277695921912

 

 

I thought there was a thread on this, but I can't find one !

 

I'll add some more info later.

 

 

never get to watch it until today!!!

 

AN EYE OPENER & HIGHLY RECOMMENDED DOCUMENTRY

 

I will be forwarding it to several of my friends

 

Thanks

 

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I know Im going to regret this, but whos the fella at the start of the movie - the indian fella :

 

What I am saying is how very important it is, to bring about in the human mind, the radical revolution.

The crisis, is a crisis in consciousness. A crisis that cannot anymore accept the old norms, the old patterns,

the ancient traditions.

 

And considering what the world is now, with all the misery, conflict, destructive brutality,

aggression, and so on, man is still as he was. He's still brutal, violent, aggressive, acquisitive, competitive.

AND, He's built a society along these lines.

 

Society today is composed of a series of institutions, from political institutions,

legal institutions, religious is, to institutions of social class, familiar values, and occupational

specialization.

 

It is obvious that the profound influence these traditional'ized' structures have in shaping our understanding and perspectives.

 

He was Jiddu Krishnamurti

 

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Zeitgeist : http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-594683847743189197

 

Addendum - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7065205277695921912

 

 

I thought there was a thread on this, but I can't find one !

 

I'll add some more info later.

 

i am about 9 minutes in and have to say that is one of the most powerful captivating beginnings i have ever seen in a movie.. looking forward to this.

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I get confused sometimes because I also keep a (now getting rather large) database of info. I'd put it in there, and forgot to add it here !

 

Here's some more info.

 

These are well worth checking:

 

Transcript, with explanation, debate and references: http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/transcript.htm

 

Q&A: http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/q&a.htm

 

They will answer some questions you'll have at the end.

 

"ZEITGEIST, Part 1" - Debunked or Refuted? A Video Response (and eBook US$7)

http://www.stellarhousepublishing.com/zeitgeist.html

 

 

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Best two hours I have ever spent in my life. Brilliant.

 

I'm not sure you want to be admitting that in public :P:D

 

Have you tried.......................chocolate, or s..................... ? :D

 

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The only problem I have now is that one can only conclude (if you believe Zeitgeist) that the financial crisis has been planned and will go as far as the rulers wish it to (even to a new world war).

 

So in a way, owning gold will only be of use if there are few enough of us who do to slip under the radar. If not, they will just take it off us again.

 

Me thinks the medium term strategy may have to be to disengage from the system as much as possible. Own a house and land, grow what you need, and barter with your community for anything else. They'll still bloody call me up for national service I'll bet! Need to get that Kiwi passport faster so I'll at least have a choice who I am forced to fight for!

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I watched the Addendum (because I found Zeitgeist curious) and found it even more flawed and patronising.

 

It's an interesting idea for fiction... I'll admit... and feel that it speaks volumes that it is associated with Ron Paul.

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Out of curiosity, have you watched the money as debt series aSteve? If so what did you think of that?

 

I'm tempted to watch Zeitgeist, but im worried that it might make me (more?) tin foil hattish... I would be keen to know if there is an anti-zeitgeist movie out there for a counter balance view, if that makes sense!

 

 

 

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Out of curiosity, have you watched the money as debt series aSteve? If so what did you think of that?

 

I'm tempted to watch Zeitgeist, but im worried that it might make me (more?) tin foil hattish... I would be keen to know if there is an anti-zeitgeist movie out there for a counter balance view, if that makes sense!

 

Yes, I've watched and read (I think) all the Money As Debt stuff. I found it thought provoking for the naive (which is probably 99.9% of the population on this topic) but not a reliable reference by any stroke of the imagination.

 

An early claim by both the MAD crowd and the Zerigeist bunch is that, in a debt based monetary system, there is a mathematical impossibility for all the debt to be paid back. This is utter nonsense... the most obvious thing their argument overlooks is that interest is paid to those who interact in the real economy... the interest is spent and can be earned. Another snag is that their position is presented as if the world would be better without debts... and nothing could be further from the truth... debt is the only real form of objective material value... and it would exist everywhere in the form employed by Siscilian gangsters if it was not enshrined in money. Zeitgeist and the MaD crowd also overlook the wider role of fiscal policy, taxation and state justice.

 

If either material makes you think "I wonder how it really works" - then that is great... by analogy, a bit like the kid who watches Knight Rider then decides to study automotive engineering. It's all good as long as there's no talk about turbo-boosts causing you to fly; impenetrable shells that can demolish stone walls - and an artificial intelligence demonstrated by a strip of red lights lit in a banal sequence.

 

Zeitgeist, like the best fiction, is based in fact... as are the musings of the MaD crowd.

 

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Isn't Zeitgeist the really badly researched movie that tries to infer that Jesus didn't exist?

 

I'm sure that's the one that tries to make out that many other gods & saviors have the same fables attached to them (which is partly true) but it makes stupid claims like the Egyptian god Horus was supposedly executed & then rose from the dead a few days later, which apart from the fact it doesn't disprove that Jesus didn't exist (just because there was similar lies/propaganda spread about him), it isn't even true.

 

The older Horus legend is well known; he was executed every day by Seth in the battle for light & dark & then resurrected every morning. This is separate to another famous tale about an individual battle with Seth (where Seth eats Horus's seed from a lettuce).

 

The only references to Horus being executed & rising in a similar pattern to Jesus seem to be from more recent texts & particularly from NWO conspiritors.

 

There are many other inconsistencies in the 'facts' it presents, to numerous to list.

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Isn't Zeitgeist the really badly researched movie that tries to infer that Jesus didn't exist?

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There are many other inconsistencies in the 'facts' it presents, to numerous to list.

 

It is only badly researched if you consider it to be factual. ;)

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Isn't Zeitgeist the really badly researched movie that tries to infer that Jesus didn't exist?

 

I'm sure that's the one that tries to make out that many other gods & saviors have the same fables attached to them (which is partly true) but it makes stupid claims like the Egyptian god Horus was supposedly executed & then rose from the dead a few days later, which apart from the fact it doesn't disprove that Jesus didn't exist (just because there was similar lies/propaganda spread about him), it isn't even true.

 

The older Horus legend is well known; he was executed every day by Seth in the battle for light & dark & then resurrected every morning. This is separate to another famous tale about an individual battle with Seth (where Seth eats Horus's seed from a lettuce).

 

The only references to Horus being executed & rising in a similar pattern to Jesus seem to be from more recent texts & particularly from NWO conspiritors.

 

There are many other inconsistencies in the 'facts' it presents, to numerous to list.

 

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