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US Healthcare: Who Gets it?  Who Pays for it?


(this pandoring guy looks like an Orc., and thinks worse)

Mexican Women Have Right to U.S. Healthcare, U.S.-Born Children, Says Democrat Senator

Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) (L) speaks during a Senate Finance Committee hearing on June 18, 2019 in Washington, DC. The committee heard testimony from U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer regarding President Trumps 2019 trade policy agenda. (Photo by Mark Wilson/Getty Images)
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Mexican women have a legal right to U.S. healthcare, and also to birth their children in the United States if they ask for asylum, Democratic Sen. Ron Wyden claimed Saturday.

Wyden’s unilateral extension of Americans’ rights, national healthcare and democratic representation to the nationals of Mexico came when he staged a visit to a shelter for migrants waiting for scheduled asylum hearings in the United States. The shelter is in Juarez, Mexico, and it hosts migrants who were sent back to Mexico under the “Remain in Mexico” program until U.S. judges have time to hear their pleas for asylum.

Wyden made the trip with pro-migration advocates from his home state of Oregon where he is facing a reelection campaign in 2020. The visit is likely intended to boost his election support from white progressives who increasingly favor migrants over many Americans.

The shelter in Mexico included a pregnant couple with a young child. Wyden chose to escort the couple to the border, past the other traffic, past a U.S. border guard, and into the United States. He said via a tweet:

I met a women who is eight and half months pregnant. Because I had a wonderful physician from Oregon, Dr. Herbert, with me, she said that … the woman was looking at some very serious healthcare problems … [that] she needed medical care.  So they immediately packed all their belongings up, headed to the border to make sure she could get to the United States and get the medical care she needed. We were essentially told early on by the customs official [at the border] that ‘No way that she could get in,’ then when they found out I was a U.S. Senator and we had a pediatrician with us, they changed their tune. Now that individual is going to be able to ge the medical care that she so desperately needs.

If the woman gives birth in the United States, she will be able to claim her child is an American citizen. In turn, she and the father can make a legal claim that they should be allowed to stay in the United States to care for the U.S. citizen child, and also should be allowed to apply for green cards and citizenship for themselves.

Wyden was accompanied by a freelance journalist whose account of of the border traffic was posted in the Washington Post:

“These policies that I’ve seen are not what America is about. And in fact what we saw with respect to the woman who is here today is just a blatant violation of U.S. law,” Wyden said, referring to the pregnant woman. He said he believed the CBP agents would have turned away the family if he had not intervened, a sentiment echoed by Taylor Levy, an El Paso immigration attorney who took Wyden and his staff to Juárez.

Wyden says the migrants are fleeing crime and persecution, even though crimes rates have recently dropped in Central America and in Mexico.

But Wyden also justified their migration by saying they are “seeking a better life for their families.” Billions of people in South America, Africa and much of Asia likely would better their lives by moving to the United States.

Many migrants rationally hope to birth their children in the United States. According to a July 24 report by NBC:

TIJUANA, Mexico — A growing number of expectant mothers are among the migrants coming in daily from Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador — even Haiti — to more than 30 already overflowing shelters in Tijuana, Mexico.

“More women are arriving pregnant or with babies,” said pastor Gustavo Banda of the Embajadores de Jesús (Ambassadors of Jesus) church, which operates a shelter in Cañón del Alacrán (Scorpion’s Canyon) on the outskirts of Tijuana. “We have a lot of Haitian women and some Central American.”

These pregnant women are here because the Trump administration’s “Remain in Mexico” program requires some U.S.-bound asylum applicants to register at ports of entry and then return to Mexican border cities to wait as their claims are processed.

It’s a period of great anxiety, if only because many want their children born in the United States.

Wyden’s unnamed Mexican woman is one of roughly 15-million women of child-bearing age in Mexico, while another 50 million such women live in South America.

Wyden’s visit provides political support for the migration advocates who are trying to persuade federal judges to knock down President Donald Trump’s “Remain in Mexico” program. The program is proving effective because it reduces the catch and release of job-seeking migrants, and so it prevents migrants from using U.S. jobs to pay debts to their cartel-linked smugglers.

The cartel’s labor-trafficking business may have earned more than $2.3 billion in 2017, according to a report by the Rand center in California.

Widen’s advocacy for the foreigners reflects the growing emotional fervor among some Democrats for the concerns of foreigners — despite and amid the fears of American voters about wages and salaries, housing prices, medical care, debts, and wealth.

A rising number of Democrats politicians are showing emotional concern for foreign migrants, even as their own constituents try to help their American children and try to rebuild their income and wealth lost during the government-aided economic crash of 2008:

Polls reveal that an increasing number of Democratic progressives show emotional solidarity with foreign migrants instead of with Americans and Americans’ laws. This trend has been dubbed “The Great Awokening,” and Breitbart News reported July 6:

Only 70 percent of Democrats say the TV-displayed migration of almost 800,000 men, women, and children into the United States counts as a crisis — and 54 percent of all Democrats say the crisis is caused by the “way migrants are treated” by the federal government.

Only eight percent say the crisis is solely caused by the number of migrants, while a further 7 percent blame both the government and the migrant numbers, even as the migrants flood into Americans’ blue-collar neighborhoods, pushing down wages, boosting rents and adding ore chaotic diversity to schools, communities, and politics.

Breitbart News reported July 17:

Among Democrats, 59 percent oppose the deportation of migrants who have been ordered home by judges following the rejection of the migrants’ appeals for residency, the poll says. That 59 percent includes the 40 percent who strongly oppose the deportation of people with departure orders.

Tablet Magazine explained the progressive Democrats’ moral fervor for migrants on July 25:

Despite protestations that they’re “not for open borders,” a 2018 Harris-Harvard poll found that more than 1 in 3 Democrats, 36%, and just under half, 46%, of liberals say they prefer having “open” to “secure borders.” A more recent Rasmussen survey further shows that 65% of Democrats believe that opening “our borders to anyone who wants to come here as long as they are not a terrorist or a criminal” is better for the U.S. than tightly controlling who comes into the country (26%). All told, when you couple the above with opposition among majorities of Democrats to standard immigration-restriction policies and connect the dots, at the very least, it’s hard to make the case that the party is “anti-open borders.” In fact, 49% of the public believes—versus 36% who do not believe—that it is for open borders. And who can really blame them? If public perceptions are mistaken, Democrats have and have had ample opportunity to set the record straight.

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3 hours ago, drbubb said:

US Healthcare:  

Ill bite.

Who Gets it?

No one.

Who Pays for it?



The cost of private health insurance is born by everyone in the price of goods and services.

private health insurers dont insure ill people that cant work, so anyone that gets sick dies an early bankrupt death.

Doesnt medicare/medicaid count?

You would get better healthcare service in an aids infested clinic in sub saharan africa without power to keep the meds cool. At least they have doctors. 


Irrelevent. both sides are paid handsomely to maintain the status quo. some 15% of US gdp is dedicated to ensuring Amerifags never get access to healthcare.

So what?

Exactly, no one cares.

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