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The "Black Dillon Rufe" appears to be a vile racist

 

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Why did we get 24/7 coverage of Dillon.

And we hear so little about this guy?

People weren't interested? gotta keep them eyeballs hooked.

 

You hearing much about someone using sonic weapons on US and Canada embassy staff in Cuba?

First reported early August and now up to 25 victims.

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I AGREE with this comment:

"Are people who play Victim Cards inferior? I think so!

Whatever their race or religion. I do not see blacks who REFUSE to play victim cards as inferior. Nor Latinos. Nor women. But playing victim cards is a way of identifying people who do not believe in basic fairness and making it on their own abilities and character."

 

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Tucker Carlson Tonight 9/26/17 - Tucker Carlson Fox News September 26, 2017 TRUMP-NFL PROTEST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETqnAJF6deg

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I AGREE with this comment:

"Are people who play Victim Cards inferior? I think so!

Whatever their race or religion. I do not see blacks who REFUSE to play victim cards as inferior. Nor Latinos. Nor women. But playing victim cards is a way of identifying people who do not believe in basic fairness and making it on their own abilities and character."

 

 

And yet, fail to see the Irony every time you post a Fox, Infowars or that skinny retard whose name I've never bothered to remember whining about how the WASPs have it so tough and everyone is out to get them.

 

Mind you, just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.

But WASPs spent so long preaching eugenics on the whole they swallowed their own poison.

 

Was thinking today how nice it is that Fox and the BBC aren't allowed to broadcast here. Must be awful having that garbage continually stuffed down your throat.

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What do you know about America, Sparks?

Honestly.

I am in America as I write this, and I am fascinated and horrified to

see how magnified some Race-related issues have become - at least in this ciity.

But the REALITY on the ground is that people of both races are mostly kind to each other.

The hyper-stimulated debate, and ingrained PC attitudes have little shadow in day-to-day living here (so far.)

The most dangerous ones to speak to about "trigger issues" are young leftwing females.

 

You might try listening t this discussion - I got hooked the intelligent intro from the intelligent Black guy, Bob

 

The Ugly Facts About Black-on-Black Racism

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What do you know about America, Sparks?

Honestly.

I am in America as I write this, and I am fascinated and horrified to

see how magnified some Race-related issues have become - at least in this ciity.

But the REALITY on the ground is that people of both races are mostly kind to each other.

The hyper-stimulated debate, and ingrained PC attitudes have little shadow in day-to-day living here (so far.)

The most dangerous ones to speak to about "trigger issues" are young leftwing females.

 

You might try listening t this discussion - I got hooked the intelligent intro from the intelligent Black guy, Bob

 

The Ugly Facts About Black-on-Black Racism

Spent 6 months there in 2005.

Lectured at a couple of the Ivly league uni's over the years.

Know enough to say it is a thoroughly broken society and has no good future on its current trajectory. You think all that government prep for Martial Law is hyperbole?? Why do you think it will be needed?

 

Black-on-Black racisim.

Yep, and why is that? could it be because:

http://www.waxpoetics.com/blog/news/music-industry-confession/

 

 

Hello,

After more than 20 years, I’ve finally decided to tell the world what I witnessed in 1991, which I believe was one of the biggest turning point in popular music, and ultimately American society. I have struggled for a long time weighing the pros and cons of making this story public as I was reluctant to implicate the individuals who were present that day. So I’ve simply decided to leave out names and all the details that may risk my personal well being and that of those who were, like me, dragged into something they weren’t ready for.

Between the late 80’s and early 90’s, I was what you may call a “decision maker” with one of the more established company in the music industry. I came from Europe in the early 80’s and quickly established myself in the business. The industry was different back then. Since technology and media weren’t accessible to people like they are today, the industry had more control over the public and had the means to influence them anyway it wanted. This may explain why in early 1991, I was invited to attend a closed door meeting with a small group of music business insiders to discuss rap music’s new direction. Little did I know that we would be asked to participate in one of the most unethical and destructive business practice I’ve ever seen.

The meeting was held at a private residence on the outskirts of Los Angeles. I remember about 25 to 30 people being there, most of them familiar faces. Speaking to those I knew, we joked about the theme of the meeting as many of us did not care for rap music and failed to see the purpose of being invited to a private gathering to discuss its future. Among the attendees was a small group of unfamiliar faces who stayed to themselves and made no attempt to socialize beyond their circle. Based on their behavior and formal appearances, they didn’t seem to be in our industry. Our casual chatter was interrupted when we were asked to sign a confidentiality agreement preventing us from publicly discussing the information presented during the meeting. Needless to say, this intrigued and in some cases disturbed many of us. The agreement was only a page long but very clear on the matter and consequences which stated that violating the terms would result in job termination. We asked several people what this meeting was about and the reason for such secrecy but couldn’t find anyone who had answers for us. A few people refused to sign and walked out. No one stopped them. I was tempted to follow but curiosity got the best of me. A man who was part of the “unfamiliar” group collected the agreements from us.

Quickly after the meeting began, one of my industry colleagues (who shall remain nameless like everyone else) thanked us for attending. He then gave the floor to a man who only introduced himself by first name and gave no further details about his personal background. I think he was the owner of the residence but it was never confirmed. He briefly praised all of us for the success we had achieved in our industry and congratulated us for being selected as part of this small group of “decision makers”. At this point I begin to feel slightly uncomfortable at the strangeness of this gathering. The subject quickly changed as the speaker went on to tell us that the respective companies we represented had invested in a very profitable industry which could become even more rewarding with our active involvement. He explained that the companies we work for had invested millions into the building of privately owned prisons and that our positions of influence in the music industry would actually impact the profitability of these investments. I remember many of us in the group immediately looking at each other in confusion. At the time, I didn’t know what a private prison was but I wasn’t the only one. Sure enough, someone asked what these prisons were and what any of this had to do with us. We were told that these prisons were built by privately owned companies who received funding from the government based on the number of inmates. The more inmates, the more money the government would pay these prisons. It was also made clear to us that since these prisons are privately owned, as they become publicly traded, we’d be able to buy shares. Most of us were taken back by this. Again, a couple of people asked what this had to do with us. At this point, my industry colleague who had first opened the meeting took the floor again and answered our questions. He told us that since our employers had become silent investors in this prison business, it was now in their interest to make sure that these prisons remained filled. Our job would be to help make this happen by marketing music which promotes criminal behavior, rap being the music of choice. He assured us that this would be a great situation for us because rap music was becoming an increasingly profitable market for our companies, and as employee, we’d also be able to buy personal stocks in these prisons. Immediately, silence came over the room. You could have heard a pin drop. I remember looking around to make sure I wasn’t dreaming and saw half of the people with dropped jaws. My daze was interrupted when someone shouted, “Is this a f****** joke?” At this point things became chaotic. Two of the men who were part of the “unfamiliar” group grabbed the man who shouted out and attempted to remove him from the house. A few of us, myself included, tried to intervene. One of them pulled out a gun and we all backed off. They separated us from the crowd and all four of us were escorted outside. My industry colleague who had opened the meeting earlier hurried out to meet us and reminded us that we had signed agreement and would suffer the consequences of speaking about this publicly or even with those who attended the meeting. I asked him why he was involved with something this corrupt and he replied that it was bigger than the music business and nothing we’d want to challenge without risking consequences. We all protested and as he walked back into the house I remember word for word the last thing he said, “It’s out of my hands now. Remember you signed an agreement.” He then closed the door behind him. The men rushed us to our cars and actually watched until we drove off.

A million things were going through my mind as I drove away and I eventually decided to pull over and park on a side street in order to collect my thoughts. I replayed everything in my mind repeatedly and it all seemed very surreal to me. I was angry with myself for not having taken a more active role in questioning what had been presented to us. I’d like to believe the shock of it all is what suspended my better nature. After what seemed like an eternity, I was able to calm myself enough to make it home. I didn’t talk or call anyone that night. The next day back at the office, I was visibly out of it but blamed it on being under the weather. No one else in my department had been invited to the meeting and I felt a sense of guilt for not being able to share what I had witnessed. I thought about contacting the 3 others who wear kicked out of the house but I didn’t remember their names and thought that tracking them down would probably bring unwanted attention. I considered speaking out publicly at the risk of losing my job but I realized I’d probably be jeopardizing more than my job and I wasn’t willing to risk anything happening to my family. I thought about those men with guns and wondered who they were? I had been told that this was bigger than the music business and all I could do was let my imagination run free. There were no answers and no one to talk to. I tried to do a little bit of research on private prisons but didn’t uncover anything about the music business’ involvement. However, the information I did find confirmed how dangerous this prison business really was. Days turned into weeks and weeks into months. Eventually, it was as if the meeting had never taken place. It all seemed surreal. I became more reclusive and stopped going to any industry events unless professionally obligated to do so. On two occasions, I found myself attending the same function as my former colleague. Both times, our eyes met but nothing more was exchanged.

As the months passed, rap music had definitely changed direction. I was never a fan of it but even I could tell the difference. Rap acts that talked about politics or harmless fun were quickly fading away as gangster rap started dominating the airwaves. Only a few months had passed since the meeting but I suspect that the ideas presented that day had been successfully implemented. It was as if the order has been given to all major label executives. The music was climbing the charts and most companies when more than happy to capitalize on it. Each one was churning out their very own gangster rap acts on an assembly line. Everyone bought into it, consumers included. Violence and drug use became a central theme in most rap music. I spoke to a few of my peers in the industry to get their opinions on the new trend but was told repeatedly that it was all about supply and demand. Sadly many of them even expressed that the music reinforced their prejudice of minorities.

I officially quit the music business in 1993 but my heart had already left months before. I broke ties with the majority of my peers and removed myself from this thing I had once loved. I took some time off, returned to Europe for a few years, settled out of state, and lived a “quiet” life away from the world of entertainment. As the years passed, I managed to keep my secret, fearful of sharing it with the wrong person but also a little ashamed of not having had the balls to blow the whistle. But as rap got worse, my guilt grew. Fortunately, in the late 90’s, having the internet as a resource which wasn’t at my disposal in the early days made it easier for me to investigate what is now labeled the prison industrial complex. Now that I have a greater understanding of how private prisons operate, things make much more sense than they ever have. I see how the criminalization of rap music played a big part in promoting racial stereotypes and misguided so many impressionable young minds into adopting these glorified criminal behaviors which often lead to incarceration. Twenty years of guilt is a heavy load to carry but the least I can do now is to share my story, hoping that fans of rap music realize how they’ve been used for the past 2 decades. Although I plan on remaining anonymous for obvious reasons, my goal now is to get this information out to as many people as possible. Please help me spread the word. Hopefully, others who attended the meeting back in 1991 will be inspired by this and tell their own stories. Most importantly, if only one life has been touched by my story, I pray it makes the weight of my guilt a little more tolerable.

Thank you.

Meanwhile, you got all those black vets homeless because they were dishonourably discharged for acquiring PTSD, but strangely enough very few white vets that got kicked out for being ill.

Spent a long time talking to them while I was there, they litter your streets if you can grow the balls to talk them. Actually very decent people, if someone pulled that shit on me there would be some genocide happening.

Perhaps it will come? And by that I mean more than the odd city burning you have now.

Army is "thinking" about stopping doing it

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/policy-dose/articles/2015-12-17/armys-discharging-soldiers-with-ptsd-needs-to-stop

But won't because it would annihilate what little budget they have for the white guys.

But then, maybe you do believe this stuff

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_racial_violence_in_the_United_States

Is all in their head, and they don't have very real grievances that are only getting worse.

But you just carry on with your whining about the symptoms rather than addressing the causes, and I'm sure everything will work out just fine.

I mean, seriously, Sheriff Joe? Pardoned?

If that BS was on my backdoor I'd be giving all the inmates free AK47s and ammunition, and getting them to work for me. Probably conquer most of the midwest in a couple of weeks. (and you couldn't complain, given that is exactly what America, including your beloved trump, is doing in Syria)

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"Know enough to say it is a thoroughly broken society and has no good future on its current trajectory."

 

You can say that about any Western country which has embraced Identity politics,

and where being A-(supposed)-Victim gives one the right to drain resources from (supposed)-oppressors.

 

How long will this unhealthy state continue?

Hard to say, but the problem has to stop growing, before it shrinks,

and the turning point may have occurred already, but only if the Voices of Reason are heard

 

I definitely put Stefan Molyneux & his caller here among the Voices-of-Reason

 

The Ugly Facts About Black-on-Black Racism

 

Stefan: "if Races act differently, it cannot be Racist to point that out" (about 12 minutes)

 

"In general, minorities and women want bigger government (to help them drain resources).

While a majority of White males want smaller government..."

"White males look at single women, blacks, and Hispanics... as their enemies (in determining the size of govt."

"The size of government is the biggest question of our time."

 

Bob, the caller: "The Democratic leadership sees lords and servants,

And as lords they see their job to get resources for black people, and hand them out,

while they remain safe in their gated communities.'

"I am more conservative than that. I want to see people on their own merits."

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"Know enough to say it is a thoroughly broken society and has no good future on its current trajectory."

 

You can say that about any Western country which has embraced Identity politics,

and where being A-(supposed)-Victim gives one the right to drain resources from (supposed)-oppressors.

 

How long will this unhealthy state continue?

Hard to say, but the problem has to stop growing, before it shrinks,

and the turning point may have occurred already, but only if the Voices of Reason are heard

 

I definitely put Stefan Molyneux & his caller here among the Voices-of-Reason

 

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You know my opinion, its tagged on the edit in the last post.

So i, like Snowden and Assange before me, defected. Call me a rat leaving a sinking ship if you want, but I prefer not to have to worry about such crap. Just let it burn? come in and pick up the pieces afterwards.

 

America just "rounding error" these days anyway. I'd be more worried about the chinks coming to collect their rather seizable debt, people tend to unify somewhat when faced with a common enemy.

 

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I'm not really sure what your points are in relation to the debate on Racism, which is the subject of this thread..

 

I like the way that Stefan simplifies the Racist question, to a batlle between those who want free resources,

and those who do not want to provide those.

 

I agree with Stefan Molneux that Blacks are often manipulated into being Useful Idiots to keep the advocates of Bigger State influence in power,

 

What do you think of this notion? (seems to be obviously true to me).

 

If you disagree, then please tell me, how have blacks benefited from supporting Democrats so strongly?

 

Some black folks who I have spoken to on this trip are quick to agree that the large number of illegal immigrants that are now in America are HURTING the job prospects of black Americans. But so brainwashed are they to hate Trump. than they cannot see Trump as someone who can help free them from the Democratic reservation

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I’ve read that claim about controlling black people with music before but difficult to know whether there is any truth in it or not because of all the deliberate misinformation thrown at us. But we do know that Jews and the CIA are very active in the entertainment industry.

 

In reality black people must still be pissed off about slavery and segregation after slavery, who wouldn’t be. Slavery only ended in 1833 in UK and 1865 in the US. Apparently whites were genetically upgraded by ET, whereas blacks were not - meaning segregation is inevitable for quite some time. Having said that I wish no harm to anyone, which, is fundamentally wrong in my opinion. However, if I was the only white person living in a street of black people (better than P**** though) would I feel comfortable - probably not.

 

We have Trump, a white American Anglo Saxon wanting to make America great again - define what is meant by great? Bring back slavery, lol

 

When you consider what’s going on in the US, the Middle East and mass immigration in Europe it seems to me this destabilisation is not by chance.

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I'm not really sure what your points are in relation to the debate on Racism, which is the subject of this thread..

 

I like the way that Stefan simplifies the Racist question, to a batlle between those who want free resources,

and those who do not want to provide those.

 

I agree with Stefan Molneux that Blacks are often manipulated into being Useful Idiots to keep the advocates of Bigger State influence in power,

 

What do you think of this notion? (seems to be obviously true to me).

 

If you disagree, then please tell me, how have blacks benefited from supporting Democrats so strongly?

 

Some black folks who I have spoken to on this trip are quick to agree that the large number of illegal immigrants that are now in America are HURTING the job prospects of black Americans. But so brainwashed are they to hate Trump. than they cannot see Trump as someone who can help free them from the Democratic reservation

black culture or black race?

 

Divide and conquer, same old same old. I'm not clear on your question. as i said right at the start if you cant tell the difference you cant have an intelligent conversation.

 

Because these days there are probably just as many whites sucked into the constructed and destructive "black culture" as blacks.

And which "black culture"?

Eminem

or

Bob Marley?

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"black culture or black race?"

Blacks are wising up, and beginning to understand how "black (victim) culture",

as being promoted by the media is a Trap, which keeps them on the Plantation

 

Candace "Red Pill Black" is soaring in Popularity

 

Her intelligence and independence-of-thought shine through in this excellent interview

 

Red Pill Black (Candace Owens) on Her Journey From Left to Right (Live Interview)

 

Red Pill Black (YouTube Creator) joins Dave to discuss her journey from liberal to conservative, her issues with the 'alt-left,' identity politics, and more.

 

Another great interview by Dave Rubin

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Star Trek Discovery:

 

The writers are obsessed with Racism & identity politics - Is it still watchable??

 

Star Trek: Discovery is Truly God Awful (Spoilers)

 

"The first officer is one dimensional... Joyless"

(just like H3llary Clinton.)

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"The Opposite"

 

Op-ed: Kneeling ignores real cause of surging black homicide

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"black culture or black race?"

Blacks are wising up, and beginning to understand how "black (victim) culture",

as being promoted by the media is a Trap, which keeps them on the Plantation

 

Candace "Red Pill Black" is soaring in Popularity

 

Her intelligence and independence-of-thought shine through in this excellent interview

 

Red Pill Black (Candace Owens) on Her Journey From Left to Right (Live Interview)

 

 

Red Pill Black (YouTube Creator) joins Dave to discuss her journey from liberal to conservative, her issues with the 'alt-left,' identity politics, and more.

 

Another great interview by Dave Rubin

Ok so culture. thats a good start.

given culture is multifaceted, and has absolutely nothing to do with the color of your skin.

 

please tell me how you would define this "black culture" of which you speak.

 

Where does it exist? what's its history. who are the main protagonists and what are some of their quotes with which you think is representative of it.

 

E.g. are we talking Martin Luther King here? Malcolm X or Rosa Parks?

 

Or something else.

 

for example

->on Her Journey From Left to Right

 

Not sure a transition from Rosa Parks (left) to Malcolm X (right). is a particularily good idea...

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David Icke talks about racism

 

 

You do not have to be white to be a supremacist, says david icke.

indeed, the most visible supremacists are jewish supemacists.

and what about all those women who want no privileges for men, and many privileges for women

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A NEW STAR is Born!

 

YouTube Hates This Conservative Black Woman For Fighting Racism

 

Published on Oct 24, 2017

Candace Owens of Red Pill Black joins Alex Jones live in studio to discuss her ongoing conflict with Youtube, Google, and the left
as her attempts to awaken the minds of millennials are thwarted.
/ 2 /
Meet The New Face Of The “Toxic Right”

 

Does the left realize that they still do not have a platform

 

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STFU, you TRUE racists !

Dear Black People...

 

We have the evidence... can it be denied ??

NFW

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We must police our own ... not give Free Passes

 

Public offers a Big F U to Hollywood's programming

 

The Far Left is Losing Institutional Power

 

"Long term impact... More free speech"

"But vigilance is still important"

 

The Red Pill Black Saga

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The TRAP of Identity Politics

 

Sarah Silverman’s “I Love You, America” Cringeathon

 

SS: "I love you Liberal bubble... I love you racist South"

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"I don't want... A white people thing" (?)

 

Writer does not get ... the Zen of living inside one's means

 

‘Tiny House Hunters’ and the shrinking American dream

“It is painfully transparent that people with tiny house budgets often have McMansion dreams”

 

HGTV began airing episodes of Tiny House Hunters, where people pretend to look for a new tiny home and act like it is reasonable to live in a space with fewer than 400 square feet. I thought this fixation was primarily a “white people thing,” until I saw an episode featuring a delightful black lesbian couple, newly married, who bought an adorable tiny home in Southern California with a bay window.

On Tiny House Hunters it is painfully transparent that people with tiny house budgets often have McMansion dreams. They too yearn for an open floorplan. They want storage. They want privacy. They want sleek kitchen amenities. They want room to entertain. That desire, to entertain, is the most delusional. In a home built for one, that may, with some dieting and sucking in of the gut, accommodate two, there is no entertaining. When you buy a tiny home, you are also making a commitment to socialize with your friends elsewhere if you hope to keep those friends.

As the reality of tiny living sets in, the hunters often lament how tiny a tiny home actually is. Or they are in complete denial and exclaim that there is just so much space. In one episode of Tiny House Hunters a man sat in the “bathtub” in the tiny bathroom. He looked ridiculous, his knees practically in his mouth as he contorted himself into the improbable space. He, the realtor, and his friend, who were all viewing the property, were nonplussed, as if the goings on were perfectly normal. And there I was, shouting at the television, “What is wrong with you people?”

CURBED_TINYHOUSE_COMPLEMENTARY3.jpg

I regularly yell at the television during Tiny House Hunters. I have a vivid imagination but it is not so vivid as to let me imagine living in a home with a compost toilet, nor is it so vivid as to make me comfortable with using the kitchen sink also as the bathroom sink. I don’t want to stand up and hit my head on the ceiling of my house. I don’t want the kitchen table to transform into a bed. I don’t want a climbing wall on the side of my tiny house.

. . .

The episode that really pushed me over the edge was one where a single father was looking to move into a tiny home with his tweenage daughter. Frankly, it was a bit repulsive and unseemly, but the father tried to make this bizarre choice palatable by sharing that he and his daughter wanted to use the money they would save traveling around the world. Having traveled a fair amount, I was, as I watched this episode unfold, quite certain there is no wonder, anywhere in the world, that would merit this kind of domestic sacrifice. Alas, the choice was not mine.

As is often the case on Tiny House Hunters, the single father had an impossibly small budget and wanted to find a home that was under 400 square feet and looked “rustic.” Jim, the father, and his daughter looked at three different “homes,” which is the script for the show, and settled on an ugly storage shed. You might think I am exaggerating but I am not. He literally chose an ugly storage shed that looked like an abandoned industrial nightmare on the inside.

There was, to be fair, a loft, with “dividers” so both Jim and his daughter could have separate sleeping spaces, but the entire affair was absurd. Jim’s friend, who accompanied him and his daughter on their fake house hunting, thought Jim was crazy. The realtor thought Jim was crazy. Even his daughter offered some indication that she thought her dad was crazy. Jim, however, was undeterred. He bought his tiny home and at the end of the episode, seemed emboldened by his choice.

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> https://www.curbed.com/2017/10/25/16526872/tiny-house-hunters-roxane-gay

 

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Writer, Roxane Gay

I suppose when one is accustomed to living off others, the beauty of self-reliance gets lost

(if that is what is going on here)

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AT LAST !

A crack in "affirmative action" Racism!

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The End of Affirmative Action -- (at Harvard, of all places)

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Published on Dec 4, 2017

 

Racism is Racism, no matter which side of the racial divide it comes from. NO MORE VICTIM PASSES!

They had decades to catch up, and the Cards are now marked; EXPIRED!

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Shelby's article, here read by Milo, should trigger many intelligent conversations

FREEDOM now challenges the Black "Victim" Narrative

Has Black Protest Lost its Power?

"Whites have been deferential for fear of being called racist"

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