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I didn't think of that.

 

There's not much in the MSM about it, no surprise there, but it's circulating on Twitter so hopefully he gains some momentum from it.

Also I think the drip drip of wikileaks will suppress Hilary's less keen supporters-of which there are many.They won't vote Trump,they jsut won't turn out.

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Also I think the drip drip of wikileaks will suppress Hilary's less keen supporters-of which there are many.They won't vote Trump,they jsut won't turn out.

 

Yes, this is overlooked in a lot of the commentary. Voters deserting Clinton and not voting at all instead of voting for Trump, is still a bonus for him.

 

I read earlier today that James O'Keefe is releasing a bombshell today at 12 (I'm guessing Eastern Time) so we should see this in an hour or so. She's got more of this to come in the next few weeks, whereas I'm not sure there are going to be as many bombshells for Trump.

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"I'm not sure there are going to be as many bombshells for Trump"

 

Yeah.

And they are being mostly ignored.

We truly need a Trump victory, to trigger a reboot of the corrupt media

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There's no comparison between the 2, it's literally good vs evil.

 

War with Russia is my biggest worry and that alone would make me vote Trump, no matter what I thought of him. It really could be apocalyptic if Clinton gets in and I hope enough Americans are realising this.

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With the polls being rigged to show the Teflon Rodent servant well ahead,

then surely you don't need to ponder the result?

 

You have to hand it to the murderous talmud-loving psychos, they have been at this for centuries and have never been this close to succeeding.

The only question I have now is do they play the false-flag nuclear option, (just after they have cleared off to the southern hemisphere); or continue with the slow genocide, (which possibly carries a slight risk of failure if enough of us 'useless eaters' see the light)?

 

I so want to be wrong. Please tell me I am :(

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Donald isn't the first

 

 

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/wikileaks-documents-prove-hillary-used-fake-polls-suppress-bernie-vote/

Confirmed: Wikileaks Documents Prove Hillary Used Crap Polls to Suppress the Bernie Vote

This past weekend a leaked Wikileaks document revealed the Clinton campaign uses bogus polls to discourage the opposition from turning out on election day.

This is how the Clinton machine operates — Release bogus weighted polls that show Hillary ahead and hope her opponents will stay home.

Now there is proof the Clinton campaign used this tactic on Bernie Sanders in Michigan.

Real Clear Politics had Hillary up 21 POINTS in Michigan.

Bernie ended up winning Michigan 50 percent to 48 percent.
Not a single poll taken the last month before the primary had Clinton leading by less than 5 percentage points.

The Clinton media lied hoping the Bernie voters would stay home.
They didn’t.'

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Still: My alarm bell went off !

 

SR1290 – USC Daybreak Poll Falls to Manipulation?

 

Was this thing set up in July to be sold or rigged just before the election.

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Still: My alarm bell went off !

 

SR1290 – USC Daybreak Poll Falls to Manipulation?

 

Was this thing set up in July to be sold or rigged just before the election.

To be fair Doc, a lot of the polls are closing the other way,details below

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Nationals

IBD/TIPP Clinton +1

NBC News Clinton +5

Rasmussen Clinton +1

ABC Tracking Clinton +12

 

Here's the interesting stuff

Ohio Trump+3

Pennsylvania Clinton +3

Wisconsin Clinton +5

North Carolina Trump +3

North Carolina Clinton +7

Florida Tie

Virginia Clinton +5

Colorado Clinton +2

Arizona Trump +1

Nevada Trump +3

 

So we're seeing Trump possibly ahead in Ohio(likely),contesting fiercely Florida and North Carolina,starting to lead Nevada/Arizona and moving within 5% in Vriginia/Colorado/Wisconsin.

 

Reading the small print,there are still 5-7% undecideds out there eg Wisconsin.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2016/Remington_WI_Oct_25th_2016.pdf

 

Virgina 6% Undecideds

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2016/Remington_VA_Oct_25th_2016.pdf

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Doing the electoral college math alongside Election Projection

http://www.electionprojection.com/presidential-elections.php

 

EP currently have Kilary on 351-187

However,taking North Carolina 15 + Ohio 18 + Florida 29 + Arizona 11 + Nevada 6=79 going off todays polls a reasonable possibility if not an actual toss up.

 

Putting the race at 266 Trump 272 Kilary.

 

Then all it needs is either Pennsylvania 20/Virginia 13/Colorado 9/Minnesota 10/Wisconsin 10

 

Also in play from last time are New Hampshire 4 and Maine 2+2

 

Granted Trump may struggle in Utah.

 

Still,can someone explain why Trump is 6.6 on Betfair?????????????

 

Unreal.Kilary is 1.2 ????

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DEATH CROSS for the Satanic One

 

ABC, Fox News, and Rasmussen now have polls suggesting Donald Trump leads Hillary Clinton nationally and for the first time during this campaign RealClearPolitics 'tracker' has Trump with a 0.2pt lead - the unofficial "death cross" of Clinton's campaign as Wayne Allyn Root right remarks "Hillary is sinking faster than the Titanic." Voters are putting their money where their polls are too as bookies odds of a Hillary victory in November are tumbling.

Hillary's lead has gone as the blue line "death cross"-es below Trump's rising red line...

 

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Source: RealClearPolitics

And the bookies' odds of a Clinton victory in November are sliding to 2-month lows as Trump's hit record highs...

 

*Sorry - that was May 2016.

But fortunes do shift quickly in this race

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Nationals

IBD/TIPP Clinton +1

NBC News Clinton +5

Rasmussen Clinton +1

ABC Tracking Clinton +12

 

Here's the interesting stuff

Ohio Trump+3

Pennsylvania Clinton +3

Wisconsin Clinton +5

North Carolina Trump +3

North Carolina Clinton +7

Florida Tie

Virginia Clinton +5

Colorado Clinton +2

Arizona Trump +1

Nevada Trump +3

 

So we're seeing Trump possibly ahead in Ohio(likely),contesting fiercely Florida and North Carolina,starting to lead Nevada/Arizona and moving within 5% in Vriginia/Colorado/Wisconsin.

 

Reading the small print,there are still 5-7% undecideds out there eg Wisconsin.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2016/Remington_WI_Oct_25th_2016.pdf

 

Virgina 6% Undecideds

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2016/Remington_VA_Oct_25th_2016.pdf

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/pa/pennsylvania_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5964.html#polls

 

Pennsylvania has definitely closed over the month

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(Single) White Women may "let the side down", but Blacks are "coming through like Troopers"

TRUMP on Track to Win More Black Votes Than Any GOP Candidate Since 1960

Jim Hoft Oct 25th, 2016 5:19 pm 261 Comments

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In the past month the number of black voters for Donald Trump has increased significantly.

At the beginning of October 9% of African Americans supported Trump.

Black Likely Voters for TRUMP @Rasmussen_Poll

Oct 3 - 9% Oct 6 - 12% Oct 7 - 13% Oct 10 - 14% Oct 11 - 19% Oct 12 - 19% Oct 13 - 24% !

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Texas Voter Fraud: Is THIS Why Media Has Been Claiming Texas Was Suddenly a “Toss Up?”

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Something odd has been taking place in recent weeks. Media figure after media figure was declaring Texas had inexplicably shifted to a “toss up” state, meaning Hillary Clinton had an opportunity to win that state in a presidential election despite no Democrat doing so in more than thirty years. In 2012, Mitt Romney, who enjoyed lukewarm at best support among Texas republicans, won that state easily over Barack Obama by nearly 16%. Now in 2016, the Mainstream Media would have voters believe that Donald Trump, who is far more popular in Texas than Mitt Romney, could lose the state to Hillary Clinton.

It made no sense. That is, until these early voting stories started to emerge out of Texas:

https://i.redditmedia.com/-eTMci2CGVAJwkHZiCRCVumwpC05QbetgsWChMUx-NI.png?w=1024&s=7baafd848ec4e65a66c817913a2727a5

Lisa Houlett

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“Gary and I went to early vote today…I voted a straight Republican ticket and as I scrolled to submit my ballot I noticed that the Republican Straight ticket was highlighted, however, the clinton/kaine box was also highlighted! I tried to go back and change and could not get it to work. I asked for help from one of the workers and she couldn’t get it to go back either. It took a second election person to get the machine to where I could correct the vote to a straight ticket. Be careful and double check your selections before you cast your vote! Don’t hesitate to ask for help. I had to have help to get mine changed.”

The above examples are now growing in number as more and more Texas voters are noting discrepancies. So far, there have been no reports of votes for Hillary Clinton being switched to Donald Trump.

Such incidents give fuel to the conspiracy fire that the Mainstream Media was creating the narrative for a “shocking” Trump defeat in Texas on Election Day. Repeat over and over again in the final weeks how Texas had inexplicably become a competitive state, despite all historical comparisons to the contrary, which would then justify a result obtained via fraud.

Is such a thing beyond the realm of likely possibility?

Perhaps, but then again, as more and more voters share stories of their votes being changed to favor Hillary Clinton, we would all do well to consider that possibility. It might also explain why so many in the Mainstream Media were so offended by Donald Trump’s warnings of a “rigged system.” Was this outrage in fact a sign of these media figures protesting too much because Mr. Trump had dared to speak of a truth they very much want to keep hidden from the public?

This is the Clinton Machine, after all, where winning dirty is in their minds, completely justified.

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Party?

No it was a fund-raiser, where they both gave "funny" speech - which attacked each other

 

Trump on Hillary

xx

 

Hillary on Trump

xx

 

No conspiracy at all

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Newt : "Two parallel Universes"

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SR1293 – Newt Gingrich BLASTS Fox News' Megyn Kelly Over Her OBVIOUS BIAS Against Donald Trump

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Bill Still : "It's time for Megyn to get a different job!"

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Why Trump's Odds to be President are Sportsbooks' Worst Nightmare

Published on Sep 19, 2016

With the 2016 election mere weeks away, Jonny Oddsshark takes a look at the most recent odds to win Presidency.

 

> latest: http://www.oddsshark.com/entertainment/us-presidential-odds-2016-futures

Next President of the United States of America

Odds as of October 25 at Bovada

  • Hillary Clinton -550
  • Donald Trump +350
  • Other +3300

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At +$350, a $100 bet on Trump gets you $350, if he wins

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http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2016/10/25/nbc_s_1980_election_night_coverage_shock_dismay_and_faulty_polling

 

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NBC's 1980 Election Night Coverage: Shock, Dismay -- and Faulty Polling October 25, 2016

RUSH: Yesterday on this program I discussed the 1980 election, Ronaldus Magnus and Jimmy Carter, and in it I described the election night coverage that night and how I will never forget it. Because this was the election that they called it for Reagan before California had even closed the polls, it was such a landslide.

Yet the last polling data going into the election in 1980 had Jimmy Carter winning by nine points. And so Cookie went back to the archives and got a bunch of audio from John Chancellor, Judy Woodruff, Tom Brokaw and David Brinkley on NBC's election night coverage of 1980 simply because of the way I had described it yesterday. It was even discussed on Fox & Friends today. So we'll start with those two just to set it up.

TrumpPolls-102416-D.jpgHere first is it Brian Kilmeade from this morning, audio sound bite number four...

KILMEADE: Rush Limbaugh, the most impactful radio host in the history of man, weighed in.

RUSH ARCHIVE: The polling data in 1980 had Jimmy Carter nine points, winning by nine points, four or five days out. I will never forget that election night, folks. In 1980 it was so bad for the Democrats -- they got skunked so bad -- Jimmy Carter conceded before 10 p.m. Eastern time. Those three networks, you should have seen the long faces and all of the reporters that were at various campaign headquarter locations.

 

 

John Chancellor was an anchor and then he became one of these anchors emeritus, retired but always around during the big events. He became commentator, threw his opinion in there when it was identified as opinion. He always threw his opinion in there, but they gave him the opportunity to say this is his opinion later on. But this is in the meat of his career where he is anchoring and reporting and all that, and our first sound bite is with John Chancellor.

CHANCELLOR: Good evening, and welcome to NBC News' coverage of 1980 presidential election. Our team of correspondents, analysts, pollsters, and commentators is assembled here in New York and around the country to see if Jimmy Carter can win reelection or if Ronald Reagan will be going to the Oval Office. We have been polling around the country in the key states, NBC News and the Associated Press, and what we're learning in the key states is that makes us believe that Ronald Reagan will win a very substantial victory tonight. Very substantial. That's our belief as of the moment based on polls in key states.

RUSH: That was how coverage opened. And he was talking about the exit polls. AP and the networks all combined to pay for and conduct the exit polls back in 1980, and it's still the case pretty much 'til today. But how rare is it to have the election-night coverage kick off with: Folks, it looks bleak out there if you're a Jimmy Carter fan. We're learning here in our research, in our election polling out there, makes us believe that Ronaldus Magnus "will win a very substantial victory tonight. Very substantial. That's our belief as of the moment."

Up next was Judy Woodruff. She, at the time, was the White House correspondent for NBC News, which means that she was very, very tight with the Carter administration people.

WOODRUFF: The only way to describe the mood here at the White House, John, is just to say that it's very sad. Perhaps the best indicator was Jody Powell's teenage daughter, Emily, who I saw a few minutes ago with tears in her eyes. It does seem obvious that the miracle story of Jimmy Carter, the unknown Georgia governor who finally made it to the White House, is -- is just about at an end.

RUSH: See, they can't... Even though Reagan is winning a landslide here, it's all still from the perspective of Jimmy Carter and how sad that it is, how unfortunate. Jody Powell's daughter was in tears! "[T]he miracle story of Jimmy Carter, the unknown Georgia [peanut farmer] governor who finally made it to the White House ... is just about to end." Up next, Tom Brokaw, NBC election night coverage, 1980.

BROKAW: John, there's been a lot of talk in the course of this election that someone may win an electoral victory but not the popular vote here tonight. We're gonna somehow the popular vote right now and show you that Ronald Reagan is not only running ahead in the electoral vote but he is running substantially ahead in the popular vote as well. Three percent of the precincts reporting in nationwide, Ronald Reagan with a percentage lead of about 11 points now over President Jimmy Carter.

RUSH: Three percent of the precincts nationwide, Reagan was up by 11 over President Carter. They're on the verge of calling it. We go back to John Chancellor.

CHANCELLOR: Well, the time has come. You've seen the map, we've looked at the figures, and NBC News now makes its projection for the presidency. Reagan is our projected winner. Ronald Wilson Reagan of California -- a sports announcer, a film actor, a governor of California -- is our projected winner at 8:15 Eastern Standard Time on this election night.

BROKAW: It certainly is 8:15 on election night. This race has been volatile, mercurial, fluid, whatever, but I don't think anyone anticipated that it eventually would become a floodgate. I can't help but recall in 1966 riding around in a Greyhound bus with him as he was trying to win the Republican nomination for governor of California and a lot of people were laughing at him then. 1966. And they have learned in every election in which he's been involved, never laugh at the chances of Ronald Reagan.

RUSH: Did you hear? It was 8:15 folks. An hour and fifteen minutes after they went on the air, it's over, and they could have called it the first five minutes after they went on the air. We still have to hear from David Brinkley, which we will do after this.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Back to our special coverage of NBC special coverage, election night 1980. Our last sound bite comes from David Brinkley, who at the end of the evening, he was the resident experienced guru at NBC at the time. This was not long before he left, went over to ABC. And our final bite, after they've declared Reagan the winner, after just an hour and 15 minutes of coverage, 8:15 p.m. they made the declaration, Brinkley decided he needed to ask a question and make some observations of the other NBC journalists.

BRINKLEY: I'd like to ask a question of you folks. We have here what I think reasonably could be called a landslide or certainly something approaching a landslide. Where did it come from? Nobody anticipated it. No polls predicted it. No one saw it coming. How did that happen? I don't want to knock the polls, because I believe in them, and they generally do very good work. One thing I wondered. Have a lot of people -- did a lot of people decide to vote for Reagan, but didn't want to say so?

BROKAW: Well, that's always been a factor. He's an actor, after all. A lot of people have made fun of him, and maybe I ought not be publicly in favor of him.

BRINKLEY: Again, don't want to pick on the polls, but there was none of this insight.

RUSH: They were bamboozled! They couldn't figure it out! Reagan was an actor! The polls didn't say anything this was gonna happen. They were beside themselves! He was an actor, he was a sports announcer. Could it have been, Brinkley wanted to know, could it have been that a lot of people decided to vote for Reagan, didn't want to say so?

We talk about the margin of error, but we need to talk about the margin of shame, and that is how many people are just ashamed to tell voters they're gonna vote for Trump versus how many people were ashamed to tell these pollsters they're gonna vote for Reagan. They were doing to Reagan what they're doing to Trump, folks.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

We had energy crisis after energy crisis. We had gasoline lines at gas stations. We had the price of gasoline was skyrocketing percentage basis. It had a genuine impact on people's standard of living, and they couldn't find work. The welfare state was still the welfare state, but we didn't have anywhere near the unemployed and out of work doing as well financially in 1980 as we do today, and this is a fundamental difference. In this year, 2016, we have 94 million Americans not working

They're not panicked like the unemployed in 1980, '79, '78 were. Because in 1978, '79, if you were unemployed, you didn't have an phone, you didn't have a big-screen TV, you didn't have air-conditioned house, and you weren't guaranteed to be eating three meals a day. You had welfare, you had unemployment, but you didn't have the kind of government support system/safety nets that exist today. So that's a difference. But today the economic circumstances really no different.

Most of the new jobs that people are getting are part time because of Obamacare. Obamacare is falling out exactly as it was designed. To show you how bad this really is, these people announce idea that the average Obamacare premium is going up 25% next year, and they do this two weeks before the election. Now, normally they would try to hide this until the day after or the week after the election, but they can't.

The problem here is that it's not 25%. That's an average. In some states, premiums are going up 116%. In Texas they're going up 70 or 80%. In Wisconsin, it's off the charts how much health care premiums are skyrocketing. Nobody can afford it. Nobody's gonna be able to. You add to that -- and remember, now, this was pitched, Obama lied to everybody. Premiums are gonna come down $2500. If you like your doctor, your plan, you get to keep it? There isn't gonna be any interruption in what you have and you like it?

All lies.

Health care is in as bad a shape as it has ever been after eight years of Barack Obama and the Democrat Party running it and running the US economy. But in this day and age, even though it's got his name on it, for some reason it just doesn't attach to him in terms of accountability as it should. It is his legislation. And the Republicans had nothing to do with passing it. There wasn't a single Republican vote for it. In 2010, the Republicans didn't even have enough votes to stop it. That's how outnumbered they were after the '08 election in the Senate.

That's why Mrs. Clinton can run around and talk about the need to improve the economy. She ought to be dead politically on that score right there. She ought not be able to cite the economy at all as a positive. She ought not have any credibility at all on the economy. She and the Democrat Party have overseen the destruction of one of the greatest systems of health care in the world: Ours. But there are similarities. The economy's in bad shape. Unemployment is not as bad by number.

The unemployment rate back in the 1980 election was honestly reported. It was double digits. It's the same thing now but they've jiggered with the way the system is calculated, the number is calculated, and so it's reported as like 5%. It's not 5%, but low-information people see that it's 5%. So it doesn't have the same degree of impact. But life experience is the same. I mean, people are living the misery. Yeah, the open borders, illegal immigrants crossing, depressing wages.

They're doing working that doesn't cost much for employers to hire them. They're not skilled; they're not educated. They can't command high wages, depressing wages for the American people. Then you get into Trump's riff about all these jobs that have left the country because of NAFTA and other things. I mean, it's not pretty out there. It literally isn't pretty. And you have a candidate on the Republican side running against the system. Reagan did, too.

They're wanting to blow it up and start over. Reagan comes out of nowhere, at least as far as these people are concerned in the establishment. I cannot emphasize for you, folks, 'cause I know many of you were not paying attention in 1980. You might have been alive. Even if you were, you don't remember it. That's why we went back to the audio archives. I'm telling you, back in 1980, the media and the Washington-New York establishment was as disdainful of Ronald Reagan as they are of Trump.

I'll tell you something else, and certainly you're not gonna remember this because the media landscape wasn't the same. But the Republican establishment hated Ronald Reagan too, just like the Democrat establishment did. There was a burgeoning conservative movement back in 1980 which was not bifurcated and split up and there were not any internecine wars going on.

 

So nothing really that uniquely different among the Republican Party establishment. Never liked conservatives, never was really all-in for Reagan except after landslide elections, as I say, that's a bright light everybody wants to shine in it. The difference is the conservative movement back then was of singular mind and purpose, and that was promoting itself, expanding itself, persuading people to join it, and defeating the left. That doesn't exist today.

So there are some differences. And I'm not trying, by playing these bites, I'm not trying to say that we're facing or looking at a likely repeat of history. It would be great if we were. I'm just playing the bites to show you that polls can be wrong in identical circumstances or circumstances close might be repetitive.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: I want you to listen to sound bite number 10 one more time. David Brinkley, about an hour-and-a-half into election coverage in 1980, around 8:30 Eastern time, Reagan has won in a landslide. California polls are still an hour-and-a-half away from closing! Carter has conceded, and they can't figure it out.

BRINKLEY: I'd like to ask a question of you folks. We have here what I think reasonably could be called a landslide or certainly something approaching a landslide. Where did it come from? Nobody anticipated it. No polls predicted it. No one saw it coming. How did that happen? I don't want to knock the polls, because I believe in them, and they generally do very good work. One thing I wondered. Have a lot of people -- did a lot of people decide to vote for Reagan, but didn't want to say so?

BROKAW: Well, that's always been a factor. He's an actor, after all. A lot of people have made fun of him, and maybe I ought not be publicly in favor of him.

BRINKLEY: Again, I don't want to pick on the polls, but there was none of this insight.

RUSH: (imitating Brinkley)"I don't want to pick on the polls, but they didn't tell us this, they didn't give us any indication of this. There's a lot of people that voted for Reagan didn't want to say so?" Clearly could be happening this year. They are shaming Trump so much that it might be causing a lot of people to not say they're voting for Trump 'cause they don't want to give any sort of idea here.

END TRANSCRIPT'

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/26/fox-news-poll-clinton-leads-trump-by-three-points.html

Clinton +3

 

'With less than two weeks to go, the race for the White House has narrowed as Hillary Clinton now has a three-point advantage over Donald Trump.

That’s within the margin of error of the national Fox News Poll of likely voters.

Clinton is ahead of Trump by 44-41 percent. Another one-in-ten back a third-party candidate and four percent are undecided. Last week she was up by six points (45-39 percent) and before that by seven (45-38 percent).

Trump is helped by increased backing among independents and greater strength of support: 68 percent of those backing Trump support him “strongly,” compared to 61 percent for Clinton.

In the four-way race, Trump leads among whites (+14 points) and men (+5), although his best groups remain white evangelical Christians (+56) and whites without a college degree (+28).

Clinton has commanding leads among blacks (+77 points), unmarried women (+27), voters under 30 (+18), and women (+10). First-time voters are also more likely to back her (+16).

The candidates garner almost equal backing among the party faithful: 83 percent of Democrats back Clinton, while 81 percent of Republicans support Trump.

“To be competitive, Trump needs to consolidate support among Republicans and carry independents,” says Republican pollster Daron Shaw. “That’s where he’s made in-roads in the last week, mostly by focusing his attention on the economy and Obamacare.” Shaw conducts the Fox News Poll with Democratic counterpart Chris Anderson.

Trump’s substantive strength is the economy. He’s trusted over Clinton by four points, yet that’s the only issue where he bests her. More trust Clinton to handle foreign policy (+15 points), immigration (+3), and terrorism (+3). '

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Doing the electoral college math alongside Election Projection

http://www.electionprojection.com/presidential-elections.php

 

EP currently have Kilary on 351-187

However,taking North Carolina 15 + Ohio 18 + Florida 29 + Arizona 11 + Nevada 6=79 going off todays polls a reasonable possibility if not an actual toss up.

 

Putting the race at 266 Trump 272 Kilary.

 

Then all it needs is either Pennsylvania 20/Virginia 13/Colorado 9/Minnesota 10/Wisconsin 10

 

Also in play from last time are New Hampshire 4 and Maine 2+2

 

Today also featured another poll with a 9 point New Hampshire lead for Kilary.

 

However,in the last two days we've had a couple of Nevada polls confirming tied or Trump up.North Carolina polls split,Ohio Trump ahead,Florida trump ahead or tied,Arizona trump marginally ahead.

 

That's the big five.Intersting to see these state polls develop.Kilary losing Penn would be sublime.

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