sandie27 Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Very interesting thread. Let me make it clear yet again!!!!! Swiss Indo and OPPT was a scam pure and simple!!! Run by an egocentric,megalomaniac called Sino from Indonesia!!!! The historic bonds were all complete scams!!! The bond frauds have been about for ages,many of these bonds are on sale on EBay!!!! Check yourselves!! I am aware of a fraud involving Millons of USD which were used to buy these junk bonds. The only value they have is as collectables under the hobby of Scripophilly. Some are valued as works of art but are not worth trillions and billions.Its all a big propagated lie,a pyramid and giant ponzi scheme. The GMOP appear to be very Swiss Indo like.The fees are being charged,but nothing is coming back but promises and failed timelines. I suspect the Ambassador is fake,the documents are fake and the money they claim is simply not there. In the last GF report the Ambassador claimed all was in order with the money, there are no upfront fees?? Also the books are correct??? He claims the world bank document is fullm of codes that is why we do not understand. What he needs to do is issue a copy of this World Bank proof of funds and any other documents he says the others have seen with loads of noughts??? Louisa that is not due dilligence saying I have seen documents with noughts!!! I can tell you now the FIU FILE will take about an hour to verify whether it is real or not as they have seen many such documents looking viable that are fraudulent.They can check and forensically have the documents verified.Itrs normal work for anti fraud teams!! So in the spirit of openness and honesty Mr Ambassador and to really satisfy Ron and the sceptics out there.Let's see the documents you have shown Louisa,Sanjay,Sheri,Radagast and Dave Schmidt.Let's have them verified.If they are so real and the funding is there then the sceptics go away and you can go on your journey for a better humanity. If your wealth is based on fake documents and or maybe some of these bonds then we have the answer. COME ON SHOW US THE PROOF!!! Is GMOP another Swiss Indo?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbubb Posted October 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Some people will believe anything : Or with GMOP, it is $100+++ In the last GF report the Ambassador claimed all was in order with the money, there are no upfront fees?? Also the books are correct???He claims the world bank document is full of codes that is why we do not understand. I think the evidence presented on the other thread : http://www.greenenergyinvestors.com/index.php?showtopic=20093&page=26 ...Makes it obvious that the so-called "World Bank Documents" are fraudulent. I do find it total amazing that people hide from the Truth: + Many will not even LOOK at the evidence, they rely on whether or not they have an emotional "resonance" with what the "Ambassador" says. This is exactly what any skilled scam-artist will want ! + If they do look, they will find some excuse to disbelieve the impossible numbers, impossible legal language, and the evidence of forged signatures The notion that there are "codes" in these documents is beyond ridiculous We have seen all this before: Promise are not kept, Hopes are dashed, Insiders leave and tell their stories We saw it with: The RV, The Republic, OPPT, Swissindo... But it takes time! Those who bother to do the research, and/or examine the truth-seeking work that others have done can get to the Truth sooner. WHY do they give time, space, and opportunity to those who are running a scam? It genuinely puzzles me, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandie27 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Re the above thread. Ron appears a very nice and Kind man. However he is sadly very very gullible,deluded, easily led and in denial. I understand why because it is very hard for him to admit he has been conned hook line and stinker by Swiss Indo and now the Ambassador. The Ambassador offer of 5k help was an empty gesture and he again is being taken in by the Ambassador and GMOP.Why he needs these crutches in his life only he knows.He lacks discernment. It's just his human flaw. But he is dangerous when he sucks other gullible individuals into his gullible followings. I wish him well. But he needs to face reality !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriarN Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Genuine service to Humanity ... Is it an "Impossible Task" ? We cannot have a sustainable Peace unless it is built on Truth, In other words: Heart is not enough, we need a balance of Heart and Head to get to a brighter and better future Ron Van Dyke has made a shocking admission in a post under his Video: 10-24-15 - ... WINNING ARGUMENTS (first, this comment was made): Toxic Reality 6 hours ago Hi Ron, I think what was meant in regards to apologies is, the fact that there were the few who stood up and tried to make you aware that these organizations were full of false promises or impossible ones and you would argue back each and every time. True friends who had been watching you as far back when you were all over RuSA who just didn't want to see you be used or hurt. Yes the message behind those groups was everything you wanted to see, but as a YT persona with many followers, being responsible for your content should be first priority. That's my opinion anyway.. I think I'm going to stop commenting anymore. I deleted all my videos as well. time to take a back seat and watch my own journey. much love .. (Ron responded as follows - note comments in bold): paradoxman316 5 hours ago +Toxic Reality Thank you for this comment that so many of you may not have wanted to see me used or hurt, As far as being responsible for my content, I have never done the research so may do in trying to vet everything. To me, that is an impossible task for any individual - it would take a well-trained group of researchers. I go with feelings; and when someone promises a particular goal that resonates, I go with it. Unfortunately, many of us get used because we want to see a better, more honest world so badly that we gravitate toward anyone who seems to have the means to accomplish it. In the final analysis, it will take a Divine miracle to accomplish what I have envisioned. What people God will use remains to be seen since so many work for dark side under false pretenses. (to which I have responded): FriarFrank Newborg HEAD +paradoxman316 : You said: "I have never done the research so may do in trying to vet everything" Wow. really?? Ron, this is not something to be proud of ! "that is an impossible task". No! It is not impossible. It is being done every day, on the Acore Forum, and elsewhere - by individuals who are really in service to Truth. And by doing that, by uncovering scams wrapped up in the "sheep's clothing" of apparent good intentions, we are serving Humanity - for real! Feelings alone with NOT Serve you well - how is the working foe you so far!? FriarFrank Newborg 1 second ago HEART: +paradoxman316 : You said: "I go with feelings; and when someone promises a particular goal that resonates, I go with it" That's not enough, Ron. Look how much this approach has cost you in the past! And you are not the only one who has paid for the mistakes which come from Just-following-the-heart. Do you remember PVR saying something like "Resonance has become a dirty word for me" - I paraphrase. But listen to what Lisa H and Brian K say here: New Agers admit: Resonance is not enough! : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriarN Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Mel V's Swissindo Report (from 2014) > http://www.freedomcentral.info/documents/press_release_the_report_back_from_indonesia_june_2014_mel_ve.pdf (the link was passed to me by someone on YT) Papa Sugih, also known as Mr. Sino AS, is the six hundred and eighty first King of Kings, from a long line of servant kings, who have owned and protected a massive amount of wealth, including millions of kilos of gold, which is ultimately humanity’s inheritance. Papa Sugih holds the title of M1, and is the single owner of several global collateral accounts and global assets, some of which were handed over to him by Queen Elizabeth II and Joseph Ratzinger (A.K.A Pope Benedict) in the NKRI treaty of 2010. All of these operations are run and protected through Swissindo, (the organization headed by Mr. Sugih) which operates and protects humanity’s inheritance through a dedicated network of warehouse managers and security staff known as Special Operations Executives. Having verified the validity of Swissindo through independent Intelligence sources and contacts, I can categorically confirm that Swissindo has been in existence since at least the beginning of the twentieth century. My own investigation traces it to be at least 100 years old. (it continues... in a similar vein ) It seems that Mel has drunk deep of the Sino Kool-Aid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriarN Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Here's part 5-of 5 with Peter Van Runt - it has been available, but I see it was not posted yet SwissIndo 5 of 5: The Last Crack, and he resigned Published on Oct 23, 2015 CVOT's Cleve True speaks to Peter Van Runt, the former "Prime Minister for Australia" within the Swissindo organization. In this Part 5, PVR reveals how the last crack in the Swissindo story led him to resign, and he gives advice on the sort of expertise that is needed if Swissindo does have some real potential wealth locked up in disputed Gold Bonds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriarN Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 We are all WAITING - for something like this - but updated - to get some important new Truths out ! Bill Cooper ♋ UFO Alien Illuminati Area 51 Freemasonry Conspiracy Secret Society William Cooper Published on Nov 13, 2014 William Bill Cooper, Tells All, Illuminati, UFO, Aliens, Conspiracy, Area 51, Secrets, Freemasonry, Secret Society "Hold your questions to the End - The harder the question, the more I like it !" If you cannot spare 3 hours+, here's a one hour talk he did a few years later "I have learned some things... And I think these things need to be passed on to you,,," William Cooper - Amazing Lansing, Michigan Lecture Rare Uploaded on Jun 15, 2011 William Cooper gives a thought provoking lecture on the Illuminati, Freemasonry, freedom and the origins of mankind and Knowledge according to the Mystery Schools. See also New World Order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbubb Posted October 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Lincoln declares Freedom! And opens a Wall for Free Speech Lincoln's FREE speech WALL : http://tinyurl.com/L-Freewall Published on 25 Oct 2015Friends from various other channels are getting fed up being banned. When that happens, I invite them to come here and start a thread - on the topic / or channel where they have been constrained. To start out out, it looks like people posting on RVD's channel are having a Free Speech problem... also on the GMOP and Modwiz, Schmidt's and other places which appear to be promoting scams - and the controllers do not want the Truth out. Well, Let Freedom Ring!, I say. +++Once upon a time, over a hundred years ago, I freed the Slaves.Now I have a feeling it would be a good time to free those who find they are shackled and cannot speak freely. So here's some space for those who want freedom. "Let FREEDOM Reign!" (some comments from a related discussion on RVD's channel): George Lincoln +merlinhadninelives : Here's a Place where everyone can post without getting banned !!Do a search on: "Lincoln's Free Speech Wall", or just click on my image at left. merlinhadninelives +George Lincoln I find my speech free here and I do not think Ron is going to block me, nor do I think GMoP has cause to. They can't profile me in the negative for who I am carries with it all things are possible... for those who love God. Yet it also carries with it the obligation to speak in defense of brothers and sisters in common. Thank you for the invitation and respect. FriarFrank Newborg Merlin, you are probably right. But you do not put out Questions that Ron finds awkward with the same frequency as others here. We need those like George Lincoln and Alithea and others to be part of the discussion, if it is to be more fully rounded. So have posted on George's Free Speech Wall about this video. Let's see if Ron will force the discussion there, or if we can have it here merlinhadninelives+FriarFrank Newborg I totally agree with you, we need those like George Lincoln, Alithea and others to be part of the discussion and radius of reason. I don't think a discussion needs to be forced nor do I think anyone need feel awkward.... for this community has been here a long time... FriarFrank NewborgThe community can go on viewing Ron's Videos and discussing them. But if Ron will not allow a rounded discussion here, we can have it elsewhere, and so maybe George's Free Speech Wall is a way forward. I will post there a bit and see what happens George Lincoln Link to my wall : http://tinyurl.com/L-Freewall merlinhadninelives +FriarFrank Newborg I will remain here. Ron has had a stroke and traumatic heart surgery along with a rocky road to recovery... and I believe he will allow a discussion. Patience is a virtue, as Grandma would say, and if I could be patient and pray for him each day and believe in a miracle for him, so too I may remain in hope that those in this community will be invited to comment. George Lincoln ??? Of course you should "remain here".But if you want to see and have a rounded discussion, you cannot have it here. Not unless Ron un-bans people like Alithea, Ashllyne, myself, and others. There's no content of significance in my video - just a songtrack. The purpose is to provide a place for people to exercise Free Speech - since they cannot do it here - That's All ! merlinhadninelives+George Lincoln Relax and take no offense where none was intended. You, Friar, Alithea, Ashllyne, and others were first blocked by TVoP/GmoP, then Ron followed suit. I have faith that Ron will allow well-rounded discussion and it's up to us to express ourselves without deliberated offense to others lest we be as those who profile us in error. Ron was always one for Free Speech and I think that can be done without name-calling or emotions distorting context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 http://www.decidethefuture.org/ "They're" Deciding The Future Of The Internet Right Now... Stop CISA!!! Not to change the subject, but this is so important. The link provides you with a lot of links & places to share the info., & to express your opinion to your senators, etc. All about control, & soon we might not even be able to have these conversations, as more of our freedoms will be lost. "They" never give up, so neither can we, if it isn't already, too late. Gotta love all these wonderful Humanitarian "projects" we've been through, from all these wonderful organizations that have been appearing throughout the years. Notice all of the progress we have made/NOT...& how happy & free we are, enjoying our awesome experiences together. Oh, well: And yes, also, as another aside, today is October 26, 2015, so here is Keshe's Blueprint that will transform our lives(so, he says), as promised, if you can make any sense out of it: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbubb Posted October 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 " as another aside, today is October 26, 2015, so here is Keshe's Blueprint that will transform our lives(so, he says), as promised" Yes. I doubt that too somehow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 DrBubb said: "Yes. I doubt that too somehow" Yup. Def. don't get that, "This is it!!!" Tesla-like feeling. Amazing though, how many, all over the world, are involved...unless that is all exaggerated, too, & somehow, made an illusion for us, or part of a cabal ploy, I don't know. I was interested & hopeful, but have a lot of concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Goldfish Report #29? No comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbubb Posted October 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Goldfish Report #29? No comment. Hi Johnny, I am trying to put most/all of my GMOP and Amba related comments on the other thread: http://www.greenenergyinvestors.com/index.php?showtopic=20093&page=27 This is intended now for Swissindo, OPPT, Hopium, and some RVD comments. Plus, whatever people think is "Truth" related - so Keshe's technology fits too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 OK thanks. Was becoming confused, where to put what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbubb Posted January 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 Clear Vision has done three new videos... The first two were about Ron Van Dyke and his house: Ron Van Dyke May Lose his House - Why? (in the second of these - CVOT reveals the RVD did sign a Mortgage Agreement back in 2005) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbubb Posted January 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 The third video came out yesterday: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vladimir899 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 "Sadly most people who seek the real Truth do so from a brainwashed mindset and in that mindset they are receivers not givers, they want to blame someone, this is the Escape Goat Syndrome" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbubb Posted February 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Haha. Yeah. "seeking the truth", is more like this: Seeking someone new to blame, or a fresh reason to blame the same people as before What gets me fed up is someone like RVD, who casts the blame on everyone but himself, when he has been a victim of his own mistakes. This kind of a person may never wake up, although he goes through a series of "wake-ups" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MySaskCan Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 I recently came across the YouTube videos on Swissindo by CVOT and felt I should share some of my experiences and correspondence with the various players who at one tIme aligned themselves with Kevin Annett. Ron Van Dyke, Mel Ve, Daryl Zeleny (not his real name) and others at one time or another rabidly defended Kevin Annett as a bona fide guru of the truth movement and reaped the benefits to their PayPal accounts simply by dropping his name. American Kabuki and someone named Angel Lucci posted plenty of interviews featuring Kevin Annett and promoting his bogus International Tribunal and it's equally fraudulent 'court' documents. In the five years of investigating the claims made by Kevin Annett, I have never seen so many internet activists taking advantage of well-meaning, albeit naive, folks simply wanting to make the world a better place. If this forum will permit me to share some of what I've learned, I will consider it my contribution to shining another light of truth in the darkness. Thanks, Heather Martin Http://www.kevinannettmustbestopped.wordpress.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbubb Posted August 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 Thanks, Heather. You are most welcome here. We are Truth-seekers, and want more to join us. If you browse around here, or do a search - you will find other threads that relate to these topics: "Kevin Annett. Ron Van Dyke, Mel Ve, Daryl Zeleny (not his real name)" Some other related search terms are OPPT, Swissindo, The Red Dragon Ambassador - and the current MOST ACTIVE related thread is here: Discerning RVD, DS, & GMOP, and moving forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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