Clear Vision of Truth (CVOT) - Exposing Swissindo, OPPT & Hopium

[drbubb]

Beyond GMOP and Hopium - a Clear Vision of Truth / CVOT?

 

I think the Time has come to move BEYOND the Ambassador's repetitive rants,

and Ron Van Dyke's unresearched dreams and Hopium addictions.

 

/ NOTE: please go on posting Goldfish Report Videos - and comments about them on the GMOP Thread.

I do not want them, ah, "contaminating" the discussions about Truth-seeking here.

But you can post comments about Ron Van Dyke on either thread. /

 

Let's share some better sources, and our honest thoughts on what we are hearing ... and seeing

 

 

GMOP - What are they aiming for? (beyond a Rehash)

 

(After almost two days, there's still no response to my "Peace offer" - see post #401)

 

Meantime, they are back reviewing the news, and I managed to listen to 20 minutes, before getting bored with it.

 

GoldFish Rehash Rant No. 21, The Ambassador proclaims "Its Time to Destroy the 666 Beast"

 

I posted this, reasonably positive comment:

Friar Newborg

A decent rehash of the news - with some help from Kev Baker, though I prefer reading: VeteransToday, or listening to WhatReallyHappening, or referring to a number of other sources. I do continue to wonder what sort of audience this is aimed at? If the truly Awake and Aware, they may like something a bit more revealing. They should actual talk to each other, and maybe challenge each other more, rather than pretending that they are giving us "revealed truth" or "inside information"

I do not know if I have been banned, or if my comments are readable by people

I also picked up on a recommendation that BML had made:

Nicholas Gaston 3 hours ago

Where is the video for the way the financial system works the ambassador was talking about???

Friar Newborg

+Nicholas Gaston : Scott Pollack: The Critical Post - Chicago Report - 6 OCTOBER 2015 - Taxes - Socialism And The CAFR's:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcY81D5HJYI

Will the supposed Insider-Amba ever offer up anything genuine on the Inner workings of the machine that he claims to be part of?

Here's a better way to spend your time than listening to another GF Rehash Report:

Empire Files: Inside Saudi Arabia: Butchery, Slavery & History of Revolt

By Abby Martin on October 5, 2015 Podcasts & Videos, The Empire Files

Podcast: Play in new window | Download (Duration: 27:12 — 12.5MB) | Embed

Abby Martin takes us inside the brutal reality of this police-state monarchy, and tells the untold people’s histo

 

 

LINK to here :: http://tinyurl.com/ClearerVisionOfTruth

 

SOURCES of Truth - in the alternative media

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Veterans Today : http://VeteransToday.com

Mike Rivero ---- : http://WhatReallyHappened.com

Kevin Barrett -- : http://TruthJihad.com

Abby Martin

Preston James

Max Igan

Simon Parkes - :

Sean Stone ---- : Buzzsaw

 

==> 31 / 10,779 (10/08)

[drbubb]

The Dragons in the Saudi Kingdom are Real !

 

Saudi Arabia has its own version of Dragons Den - elites there are highly powerful

 

| Download (Duration: 27:12 — 12.5MB) |

Abby Martin takes us inside the brutal reality of The Kingdom,

a police-state monarchy, and tells the untold people’s history.

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Here is a more REAL version of the Wealth and Power concentration

than the one that the fake "Ambassador" claims claims exists in China - it doesn't ! Where's the evidence.

 

What BML claimed the Red Dragons have in China, the Saudi Royal family obviously has in Saudi Arabia.

 

And far from being humanitarians, the Saudi Royal family is wealth-obsessed, has much corruption, and even human slavery,

as Abby Martin reports (see Link above)

 

The Saudis also have vast wealth - more than the Red Dragon Family has, if they truly exist. Do you see them using it to help humanity?

 

What does it take, to get humans, and especially rich humans, to behave in a more "service-to-others" fashion?

Should the US government really be propping up regimes like this?

There are real and practical questions - not the false questions and half truths you will hear about from GMOP.

[drbubb]

Getting beyond the Rants and Rehashes (that GMOP feeds people)

 

WHAT is really behind the Middle East wars

Dr Kevin Barrett offers some good explanations in this recent interview:

 

 

"The Zionists need to take full responsibility for what they have created...

The First step would be for Israel to take any and all refugees"

Maarten Horst of ET-First Contact Radio interviews Kevin Barrett _ on Kevin Barrett’s Truth Jihad Radio

> http://noliesradio.org/archives/104599

 

Maarten Horst of ET-First Contact Radio interviews Kevin Barrett on false flags, religion/worldview, and the path to peace

– inner peace as well as world peace.

 

"The Zionist are people who gave up on their religion... to worship a national state, Israel.

They are backed by the wealthiest family on the planet, the Rothschilds"

 

I do think we will find more evidence for Dr Barrett's views of the world, than the misinformation that the fake Ambassador is feeding us.

Barrett's story seems to be much closer to the real story of what is happening on our planet, and he is not trying to scam you out of your money with lies.

 

(the podcast is a bit "all over the place", but for me is more interesting than yet another BML rant.

Despite the hodge-podge nature of the "interview", I even liked the 1-2 minutes of music.)

[drbubb]

CVOT's TRUTH is:

We need to Think for ourselves, and stop looking for saviors

 

Max Igan said it well, as this video points out

 

Max Igan on The Dragon Family etc.: "No Savior is Coming!"

 

From the Conclusion:
A common sense explanation by Max.

He is not feeding you with false hopes. Let's realize that we in the Truth Movement have learned something important from our experience with would be saviors, promising us a better world with no pain, no sacrifice: If it sounds too good to be true, then it probably is.

There's no saviour. No OPPT. No Swissindo. No mass arrest by a gang of Ninjas. No trillions from the Dragon family that are sudden going to change the world and make it right. Those are psyops. To keep you waiting, and thinking you will not have to take action yourself. In fact, all these FANTASIES should have taught us discernment.

[drbubb]

Truth or Peace? Is that the choice we are facing?

 

TRUTH must come first

Only then, can we have a lasting Peace ... with Freedom for all

 

Remember this?

It is part of a bad deal - It is the mentality of a Slave:

 

"To respect those in leadership roles, not to undermine those in positions of responsibility,

and to complain only to the appropriate people"

 

> http://www.globalmissionofpeace.com/our-values-ethics.html

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The Powers that rule our planet have a vision for the future.

They talk of a world at peace, but one which is under their control. If we simply give up our freedoms, and agree to : "respect those in leadership roles, not to undermine those in positions of responsibility, and to complain only to the appropriate people" - then we may have world peace, they say. And maybe some handouts too... they hint or promise, as a sweetener.

 

That's the promise, but we have to surrender our freedoms first, and to trust in their promises.

Is this a fair deal? They have been doing the same thing for years: frightening us. And offering us safety, to get us to give up our freedoms - Look where this has taken us! We have lost our freedom, and yet we are still not safe !.

 

CVOT has a different vision.

We want people empowered at a local level, with power and freedom within their communities, with all power not residing solely at some faraway planetary level. With local power centers, we can still have a world at peace. At peace, because those who want to control and manipulate us with lies, have been stripped of power, and We-the-people are fully awake and aware. To protect ourselves, we have learned how to practice active and vigilant discernment.

 

To get there, we must wake up, and embrace Truth. Only the Truth will set us free from those who want to enslave us.

[Ashllyne]

I agree with the above post #5 Dr B - If I were to implement such a policy in an organization people would be resigning in droves. It sounds like a throwback to the 60s where people had to ask their boss for permission to arrange a meeting with a higher up. A thing of the past once you yourself have a role within a decentralized structure where decisions are taken at the local level without input of the higher levels. Quick, dynamic, and empowered.

 

No "modern" organization would ask you today to behave in such a manner as it is simply an inefficient way of getting work done.

[drbubb]

I agree with the above post #5 Dr B - If I were to implement such a policy in an organization people would be resigning in droves. It sounds like a throwback to the 60s where people had to ask their boss for permission to arrange a meeting with a higher up. A thing of the past once you yourself have a role within a decentralized structure where decisions are taken at the local level without input of the higher levels. Quick, dynamic, and empowered.

 

No "modern" organization would ask you today to behave in such a manner as it is simply an inefficient way of getting work done.

 

Yup!

Do you find that quote objectionable?:

"To respect those in leadership roles, not to undermine those in positions of responsibility,

and to complain only to the appropriate people"

 

If you click on the link to find the source: http://www.globalmissionofpeace.com/our-values-ethics.html

 

 

You will find it takes you thru to the GMOP Code of Conduct !

This is an authoritarian concept that Hitler himself might have devised.

And it is on a site that claims to have a humitarian mission - I find it highly inconsistent,

and it is one of the things that is inspiring me to create a new channel

with CONTENT which I want to be more consistent with a genuine pro-human agenda.

 

And I want to invite others to participate in this effort too !

And if this becomes a group effort, I want to see if it can be done without authoritarian conduct.

[FriarN]

Is this Ron's Peace offering??

 

Max Igan on The Dragon Family etc.: "No Savior is Coming!"

 

From the Conclusion:
A common sense explanation by Max.

He is not feeding you with false hopes. Let's realize that we in the Truth Movement have learned something important from our experience with would be saviors, promising us a better world with no pain, no sacrifice: If it sounds too good to be true, then it probably is.

There's no saviour. No OPPT. No Swissindo. No mass arrest by a gang of Ninjas. No trillions from the Dragon family that are sudden going to change the world and make it right. Those are psyops. To keep you waiting, and thinking you will not have to take action yourself. In fact, all these FANTASIES should have taught us discernment.

 

Yes indeed: "all these FANTASIES should have taught us discernment."

10-08-15 - IF I'VE OFFENDED YOU IN ANY WAY, PLEASE FORGIVE ME

 

Ron says here: "We've got to expose the criminals"
I agree!
But the Ambassador appears to be a part of the problem, not part of the solution -
and Ron has unwittingly been dragged into supporting the wrong side,
because of his unwillingness to do research, and because of his ongoing addiction to "hopeful messages"
- too much "Hopium" has impaired his ability to exercise discernment.

(I do not think there is any chance the RDF will make sure "all our financial needs will be met",

without having to work, as Ron said - that's a pure pipedream - Wake up, Ron! Please.)

Even though I am still somewhat miffed with Ron, I do hope he gets his sleep,
and returns to health, and a more stable frame of mind. It cannot be easy.

WHAT? Did he say he would "unblock people, if possible" near the end???

Good old Ron !

 

Merlyn also had a positive message here, under the video:

merlinhadninelives 34 minutes ago

Thank you for extending the hand of grace to your community here... and I hope that you unblock and allow freedom of expression, a hallmark of your channel...For your community here is yours regardless of your affiliations or friendship with the Ambassador... who might also learn grace in understanding your community instead of profiling people while not answering their questions which has led into the great divide that can be easily bridged with communication.I appreciate this video and the heart resonance from it...

[drbubb]

WHERE to post ?

I just added this Note to the Header:

 

 

/ NOTE: please go on posting Goldfish Report Videos - and comments about them on the GMOP Thread.

I do not want them, ah, "contaminating" the discussions about Truth-seeking here.

But you can post comments about Ron Van Dyke on either thread. /

 

 

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BTW, it seems that Ron's "forgiveness" and intent to "unblock people" is not as broad as it first seemed:

 

paradoxman316 6 hours ago (edited)

+merlinhadninelives That does not mean that I'm going to unblock the troublemakers unless the agree to stop the attacks that influence my health and well being. They can email me at paradoxman@cfl.rr.com.

merlinhadninelives 3 hours ago (edited)

+paradoxman316 Asking people to not proclaim what happened to them with the TVoP is not fair for they are telling the truth as am I.... This can be done classically, I am sure.

paradoxman316 1 hour ago

+merlinhadninelives Blanket forgiveness, when not requested, does greater harm, as I see it, than requiring an acknowledgment of actions.

[Adam Toxic]

Hello again. I remember when you were blocked from RVD channel Friar. I made a video earlier today about Ron, If he watches it, I may be next on the chopping block. Like you say, Good Ol Ron but wow how my perception of him has changed over the years. I hope it's OK I post my video here. https://youtu.be/I-AsIQ_BoOY

[drbubb]

It is fine. Thanks for the link, Adam.

Here they are, the latest video, and the earlier one:

> see other thread:

http://www.greenenergyinvestors.com/index.php?showtopic=20093&page=22

 

(note: I posted them there, since I want to begin to draw a line - on this thread! -

concerning the "old issues" of blocking so-called Trolls on RVD's channel.

That whole drama relates to the Ambassador and his outsized influence on Ron and his channel.

I am hoping that Ron and viewers of this website will begin to move beyond the half-truths

and fantasies that the Ambassador brought to Ron.)

 

GMOP is the old paradigm of impossible dreams, Hopium, and Free money.

Those who want to discuss the Ambassador's empty promises can discuss them on the GMOP thread.

 

If and when Ron moves on to new ideas (& better ideas?), they are welcome for discussion on this thread.

[drbubb]

COMING : a revealing interview

 

 

Videos about Swissindo have generated Millions, or maybe Tens of Millions of hits on the internet.

 

What's the real story here?

A Swissindo Insider (former "prime minister of Australia", Peter Van Runt) has agreed to speak out regarding this controvesial organization. After all most two years of hard work, helping Mr Sino to build the organization in Australia, and promoting its humanitarian goals, Mr Van Runt saw the "cracks" in the story he was being told, and resigned.

 

The story of how an international phenomenon was created and grown on voluntary efforts, using promises that were never kept, is fascinating, and a great cautionary tale of our time !

[drbubb]

SWISSINDO Insider tells his story : 1 of 5: Introduction

 

 

Uploaded on Oct 9, 2015

CVOT's Cleve True speaks to Peter Van Runt, the former "Prime Minister for Australia" within the Swissindo organization.

In this Part 1, PVR reveals a bit about his background and how he learned about Swissindo through OPPT and Ron van Dyke's channel. Like many others he worked long hours as a volunteer with no pay. He saw Swissindo as something that might overturn and change a corrupted system. He put aside his initial rejection of its system of hierarchy and titles to become involved... Here you will learn something of why this strange organization attracted so many people who committed so much time, despite not being paid.

 

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(here's a bit of history):

18-05-2013: RON'S CONVERSATION WITH PETER VAN RUNT

paradoxman316 :

Published on May 17, 2013

Peter is a man living in the Capital District in Australia who caught my attention when he made a video about the OPPT. He was and is obviously a man with great spiritual insights and much wisdom. In this first recorded conversation we talk about our connection with Nature, the New Age Syndrome, shadow work, authenticity, feeling not good enough, false-flag emotions, enlightenment and much more. The big theme, if there is one in particular, might be expressed by the CG Jung quote: "One does not become enlightened by imagining figure of light, but by making the darkness conscious."

[drbubb]

(the story continues...)

 

Swissindo Insider's story, 2 of 5: How much wealth ?

 

Uploaded on Oct 9, 2015

Cleve True speaks to Peter Van Runt, the former "Prime Minister for Australia" within the Swissindo organization. In this Part 2, PVR reveals how he got drawn into becoming a part of Swissindo's international delegation. He also talks about the scale of Swissindo's massive wealth claims, and the mythology concerning where that wealth may have been stored.
(see Notes in the description for more detail)

 

NOTES
+ PVR got recruited by Swissindo's "Emperor for Australia" Ross, whom remains a friend
+ Ross had contact with Sino's people, and he claimed to be a "servant king"
+ They were asked for resumes, and total they would need to devote a year of their time, and for that would be paid $1.2 Million... but not until after "the funds were released"
+ They were given a document, called the History of Asian Banking by "Ernest Rauthschild", saying that King Solomon's gold was stashed in Indonesia, and controlled by "M1" who was supposedly a representative of wealthy royal families
+ The gold caches in caves was supposedly certified by UBS (I doubt that! banks do not do that - any such documents certifying that are likely to be fraudulent.)
+ Indonesia's war hero, Sukarno, was said to have been "the M1" - he's a sort of mythical figure in Indonesia, loved in Indonesia. But he was replaced by Suharto, who was more friendly with Western powers
+ Ross and PVR were recruiting other members in internet chat rooms. There was one for Australia, and rooms for other parts of the world, operating separately. Sino did not participate in the rooms; his English was too poor. People joined from the OPPT, and some of them had lost their homes when OPPT documents did not work.
+ Sino had a Canadian military guy (Daryl Z.) who was his military adviser, and was giving advice to the chat rooms. And Sino supposedly has some "codes" which would allow him to take over the UN and also gain control of the military. Because he had those codes - they came to him in a vision - Sino was the new M1.
+ The "funds" that were to be released were to come from certain Gold Bond. These Gold bonds originated when Asian families turned over their gold to what they thought was the US government, in return for gold back bonds, who interest and principle were linked to gold
+ The Asian wealth (in Gold caches) were said to be worth $128 to $138 Trillion (Note: that's approximately half the wealth on the planet. Any UBSD certification would have be forged documents; people do get hold of bank letterheads to forge such documents.)
+ Sino's people in Indonesia were telling stories that each person on the planet would receive $6 million from these funds (Note: $138 Trillion / 7 Billion people on the planet is only: $19,714 per person, not $6 million.)
+ After three key events culminating in Sino's coronation as "King of Kings", meant to happened by a certain date in 2013 or early 2014, the funds were to be released into the control of Swissindo

[FriarN]

Swissindo was a gigantic Time-waster! Why did this happen?

 

Mel Ve was another person who recruited as a delegate in 2013.

She and her partner helped to build websites and promote the Swissindo enterprise: "A TOTAL of about 10 videos"

.

Global Initiatives Review with Mel Ve - SWISSINDO 03 Jul

Published on Jul 4, 2015

 

Her account has loads of details regarding things that Swissindo hoped to achieve, but were never accomplished.

It helps to elucidate how much human effort was wasted by this scam - which relied very heavily on voluntary efforts of non-Indonesian people.

Clearly, there a big need for greater discernment on our planet - especially BEFORE people hand over money, or make large voluntary efforts.

 

What I find ODD about Mel's video is that she somehow seems proud of all the time and effort she invested, rather than being apologetic about how her efforts actually helped to inspire others to waste time, and lose money.

(If there is an apology in her video, I could not find it !)

 

Her main purpose in making the video seems to be to SETTLE OLD SCORES, not to get the truth out.

 

/ People who are looking into GMOP, and the Red Dragon "Ambassador's" enterprise, take note ! /

[Paddington]

Mel Ve is running http://www.consciousconsumernetwork.tv/ Seems she was intended to become the Ministry of Truth for Swissindo.

 

Mel Ve is connected (and possibly financially supported) with Sasha Stone (http://www.humanitad.org/ , http://newearthnation.org/ and numerous other "Global" organisations). He seem to have a fetish for creating global organisations on paper and putting himself on them as Director. There are connections to UN both from Swissindo and Sasha Stone.

 

In the mix we have the QEG-project (another scam?) and a bunch of other "alternative" people that try to make a living on promoting and alternative agenda. Some with good intentions, some just trying to make a living and some in it for the ego. So it's a very diverse group of individuals, from all over the world, not organised in a formal way.

 

The energy of "global" is prominent, hierarchical structures that funnel energy from the bottom to the top.

[drbubb]

(and the next part...)

Swissindo Insider, 3 of 5: Sucking on the Hopium Pipe

 

Published on Oct 13, 2015

CVOT's Cleve True speaks to Peter Van Runt, the former "Prime Minister for Australia" within the Swissindo organization. In this Part 3, PVR talksabout how people got very excited about a series of events, that was meant to lead to big payments ($1.2 million, or maybe $10 billion!) to all Swissindo delegates....
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NOTES:
+ All the Swissindo delegates were expecting great things to happen fast, with three key events to be followed by the release of funds to Mr Sino. and $1.2 million p.a. salaries for the delegates,
+ But it didn't happen, and a German finance minister was blamed for the delay. Then, there was a second delay blamed on events in Egypt... and a third, where bankers stole the money, and so on. There was no way to check these strange stories, but "everyone was sucking on the Hopium pipe", and wanted to believe. Failures were blamed on people "not holding the right vibrations" (haha)
+ Events came in November, and February, with Sino's "Coronation, as King of Kings" in March 2014. Sino said that he "did not want any corruption, and so was going to give them huge money: $10 Billion! Peter said that this was the first huge crack for him.
+ PVR first heard of Gold-backed bonds, when someone approached him trying to cash a $35 Million Liberty bond.
+ All this while, almost none of the delegates were having direct contact with Mr Sino. They were all going through Indonesian associates of Sino, or through Darryl Zaleny, a Canadian military guy. The first contact was thru Video conferencing, and the language barrier became evident.
+ The country of Laos was identified as the first country that had a Central bank willing to act as a payment agent. But then ex-CIA head, Frank Carlucci was said to have stolen the money.
+ A Swissindo conference was organized in Cheribon Indonesia, and delegates from all around the world went. PVR paid for his own airfare and that of two other Australian delegates. Their expenses in Indonesia were supposed to be covered by Swissindo. But that did not happen.
+ Indonesian friends of Sino tried to get them to rent expensive cars, but instead they took a train. They were promised rooms in a luxury hotel in Cheribon, but those were taken by people closer to Sino, and they wound up in a "fleabag" hotel, that they had to pay for. (Instead of the Asten, they went to the Victory hotel.) They met many ordinary people who were attached to Sino, but seem to have access to very nice vehicles. Another crack: where was the money coming from for these nice vehicles?
+ They saw Sino's home, and he claimed that he had the codes to release the money, but could only do that if he had the support of enough delegates with pure hearts. At this point, PVR felt there was "a really big crack... had he been conning people?" But it was easy to get caught up in the ceremony, the Hopium, and Sino's charisma. It was like a "reality distortion zone,"
+ "The cracks were there, but I did not want to see them... I got caught up... We were all together in a really big group."

[sandie27]

Parts 1-3 very interesting Re Swiss Indo.

 

What a big scam PVR was well and truly duped!!

 

Sino is clearly a power mad probably bipolar suffering megalomaniac.A very dangerous individual.

 

Once the appointed from God rhetoric came in I would have been well on my way to the Airport if not before when the hotel did not materialise.

 

The promises never met,the fake proof of funds,the hidden face and the hopium appear to be evident in GMOP.The type of people believing in the Ambassador (clearly self proclaimed title) are stereotypes of the gullible who would get sucked in.

 

If I was Louisa,Sheri,Steve,Ron,Rev Rad and Sanjay I would run for the hills before their names become associated with a fraud group.

 

Detach from the Ambassador now!!!!

 

The excuses for no funds are very Swiss Indo,the rhetoric,trips to China at no expense to the RDF are parallel with Swiss Indo.

 

It is now my very strong opinion due to the similarities with Swiss Indo the RDF claims of wealth are fake.

 

I implore Louisa as media outreach of the GMOP to demand the Ambassador re show her the proof of funds documents put away her naive

side and check out what he shows her. She is the media outreach and is promoting GMOP if he respects her he will show her and prove absolutely the funds are real.

 

If the wealth is based on an illusion of what the RDF think they are owed.It is more OPPT.

 

If he shows her bonds then this is the final proof that the project funding will never come through and taking 100USD to pitch a project on false pretences cannot continue. It will be proven as a scam.

 

The police and Intel moniter these type of groups daily for textbook signs of frauds and deception to protect the public.

 

It has been known regularly that those who promote these groups publicly on media to lure fees and brainwash do eventually get that knock on the door.Louisa could be first as a witness for the Ambassador. So to protect herself she needs proof not hopium what she is promoting is real and true.

 

Namaste

[drbubb]

"I implore Louisa as media outreach of the GMOP to demand the Ambassador re show her the proof of funds documents put away her naive side and check out what he shows her. She is the media outreach and is promoting GMOP if he respects her he will show her and prove absolutely the funds are real."

- S.

 

You are right. She is on the way ruining her reputation forever.

People who watch these videos will remember her as follows:
"Oh, you were the one who promoted that "Dragon Family Ambassador scam!"

Look how Lisa Harrison is struggling to regain her audience

 

She has partially admitted she was fooled, but not in the rather elegant way that PVR has.

 

Here is her admission, and Brian Kelly's that they were fooled:

New Agers admit: Resonance is not enough!

 

Strangely enough, the Reverend R, posted THIS under the video:

Modwiz125 9 months ago

A cleansing video. These guys are leading the way breaking through the mold that has grown on the perennial wisdom at the core of new age thought. This kind of self examination is very refreshing and needed.

RADA, please: Look in the Mirror!

The people who saw threw OPPT, and Swissindo, see many similarities with your "Ambassador's" project !

[FriarN]

SLOWLY, BUT SURELY Ron is coming around... to accepting the need for Deeper Discernment

 

10-18-15 - THE SEEDS OF CHANGE ARE NOT PLANTED IN A SINGLE POT

 

Published on Oct 18, 2015

One of the errors I think I've made in the past several years is thinking the key to world change hinged on a single program or belief. Whether it was the US Republic restoration movement, SwissIndo, or the Dragon Family, I have had a tendency to put all my eggs in one basket. Individually, each one disappointed me in some way. Obviously, the world has not yet seen the massive changes I expect. Still, there are lots of good things happening if for no other reason than the fact that more and more people are waking up to truths about our world, especially that it has been misguided by some force, we can call them the elite, that has not dealt honestly or with even a modicum of honor. This is the really big change: fewer people are asleep at the wheel.

 

(posts from there - will RVD approve them ??? Without his approval, they cannot be seen on Youtube)

 

FriarFrank Newborg

ABOUT DEEPER DISCERNMENT ... Ron, this was an interesting Video today. It does seem to fit my idea that there is an important STAGE of awakening that includes disappointment. I think, after an awakening, all people need to tie their hopes to one or more noble-seeming causes, and have them fail. From this they learn that: + Good intentions are not sufficient, and + Emotional resonance alone, is not a valid test of a cause Many have now learned these lessons from OPPT, and Swissindo etc. After people have learned the dangers of "Hopium", they can a deeper level of Discernment, that requires both Heart and Head to be satisfied. Solid evidence, and deep research definitely have a role in Deeper DISCERNMENT. I am not meaning to sound overly critical in saying this, but I think you know what I mean.

FriarFrank Newborg

ABOUT FRIENDS ... Ron, No one can choose your friends FOR you. And that includes telling you whether the Ambassador is your friend or not. Clearly you two have a real sympathy for each other. And I do think that he cares about you. However, that does not mean that his GMOP project is genuine. And it also does not mean that he is above using you. I actually think that although he cares for your welfare, but he has used your help to build an audience for his GMOP project. And if it turns out to NOT deliver the goods (ie funding for humanitarian projects), then that would be unfortunate. It would be silly of me to say that it is a definite Non-starter or a scam - How can I possibly know that for certain? But I do think that the evidence I have seen is very unpersuasive. So I do recommend caution for people - not to invest too much HOPE in GMOP until it provides more solid evidence. (I have worded this carefully, so as not to offend anyone. And maybe with this statement, we can finally agree we are "on the same page.")

FriarFrank Newborg

ABOUT SWISSINDO : I recommend that you and others listen to that interview with Peter Van Runt. He sounds like a very decent guy, and the story he tells seems very genuine. There are some good notes on Part 2, and Part3 of 5 is called; "Sucking on the Hopium Pipe". And gets into the real nitty-gritty about how people got sucked in. > Link:

[drbubb]

(the story continues...)

 

Swissindo, 4 of 5: Realization hit, Westerners were like window dressing

 

 

Uploaded on Oct 19, 2015

CVOT's Cleve True speaks to Peter Van Runt, the former "Prime Minister for Australia" within the Swissindo organization. In this Part 4, PVR reveals how the opulent Super Seminar event was a great buzz, but it revealed huge cracks in the story. Could the Westerners have been mere window dressing?

 

NOTES:
+ "The cracks were there, but I did not want to see them... I got caught up... We were all together in a really big group... I went with the Hopium."
+ "A couple of nights later, a really big crack appeared - the Venus project!.... I made an excuse of being ill, and went back to the hotel.
+ "The next day was the Super Seminar event... There was a honor guard of 120 Swissindo officinatos stretching the whole hotel... The buzz was getting more real by the second... We went throught to a huge conference session - it is all on the web - we signed something that I now revoke.
+ "I realized that all these Westerners coming in legitimized it for them... And we were spiritual beings for them..." They met local people who spoke good English, so why were Sino's translations so poor?
+ He met the Laotian delegation, and they said their secret service had checked everything out. Laos Central bank aimed to make some fees for helping Sino get access to the funds. Everything seemed so real, when the documents were being signed. Sino showed everyone a plate for printing up US dollars (counterfeit dollars?)
+ PVR had met someone in Australia who had a $35 Million gold bond supposedly issued in 1928 that was meant to be worth $200 million. He wanted to cash it, but chickened out. MR Sino had in his house, stacks and stacks of similar bonds. Were they real, or were they like glass beads used to bilk money out of frightened wealthy people in Asia.
+ It started to click with Peter, that Sino might have thought all those bonds he had were real (or at least was willing to let others believe they were real.) Maybe the Indonesian gold in the caves was a "furphy" myth? Sino was using the bonds as a prop to raise money.
+ Emperor Ross managed to recruit a local in Indonesia who spoke good English and could translate. And he found out that Sino was conning people in Indonesia to get money. Ross confronted Sino with this story, and was quickly deposed - replaced with Rina Illiades, the new "Empress of Australia."
+ Sino / Sugi used mystical titles to pull people in. He called one person a brother from a past life. And Ron van Dyke, he called his father, and so forth.
+ Well to do Indonesians were paying big money to back Sino, because they thought (hoped?) he could be like a reincarnation of the revered Sukarno. There was also said to be a plan to revisit that past glory, by having a new version of the Green Hilton Agreement.

[drbubb]

Does a Hopium addiction cause blindness?

 

I am sure that RVD's intentions are good. I really believe him when he says he wants the best for humanity.

And as he says it in this podcast:

"I believe I am on a mission from God (to bring positive changes to humanity). When I no longer believe that I will die"

 

10-20-15 - WERE OPPT & SWISS INDO SCAMS?

 

I also fell off my chair when Ron said about OPPT's founder: "I really believe Heather's intentions were good."

And : "I think that Mr Sino was deceived... It was run by people from Europe. That's why it is SWISS - Indo."

 

These statements are rather astonishing given the history of these two scams.

Did Ron stop paying attention, when he wasn't making videos about them regularly?

 

Heather has been ripped to shreds by various people who were close to her. The well-intentioned Lisa Harrison said that she was deceived by Heather.

She did her own version of PVR's confessional.

 

Here's the LINK :

THE ONE NETWORK talks Freedom Central - CLOSURE (see next post for notes)

And here's a brief excerpt from it:

New Agers admit: Resonance is not enough!

 

I think Ron needs to seriously tighten up his discernment process.

Maybe when he listens to Peter's comments in Video 4-of-5, the truth will come to Ron.

I think it should be obvious that Mr Sino is a charismatic con-artist, and he was running a clever global scam.

 

+ Westerners got sucked in by promises of money - delegates were promised $1.2 million, AFTER certain funds were released.

And that never happened. They were not even reimbursed for travel expenses, which had been promised. Some paid thousands

of dollars to travel from Europe or South Africa. The money never came back.

 

+ But even with these broken promises, people still believed that Sino was not a scammer, because THEY WERE NEVER ASKED

for Money by Sino. If they had, they would have run a mile.

 

+ The clever thing about Sino's scam was: the money came from elsewhere - it came from wealthy supporters in Indonesia.

That's what Peter's interview part-4-of-5 reveals. The Western delegates were window dressing, to make Sino's claims of having UN

and western connections more credible to his "targets"

 

Here's an insightful video that was done back in April 2014, that predicted this:

 

Ron is wrong : the "Swiss" part of Swissindo is not there because Westerners run it. It is there as another prop, to get dupes in Indonesia,

to think that Sino might have some wealth stashed in Swiss banks. We all need to "get real" and become more discerning.

[drbubb]

From a thread on GEI

 

The OPPT "Dream Team" finally Apologizes

THE ONE NETWORK talks Freedom Central - CLOSURE

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"Heather's a 'gunna'... gunna do this, gunna do that... But it never happens" - Lisa

 

It was all a lie... Heather deceived us. - that's the basic message

 

+ Heather lured them to Morocco by saying "I will tell you who were the real ones that financed the OPAL tour"

 

+ She was going to start a community, and bring "some white hats from DARPA"

 

+ Heather was put up to it, "Bringing us there was a Job. Maybe one she got paid for"

 

+ All the good hearted people had an effect on Heather, "but when she got back on script it was obvious"

"Transparency has been our watch-word" (really?)

 

+ "Towards the end, it got very very ugly"...

In the relaunch, Heather prepared herself over 3 days to be the person in the interview

Heather's persona was "so calculated, so pre-meditated." After the interview, that person disappeared

 

==

 

DEE: "She (Heather) continually spoke about Open-ness. But was creating separation."

When Heather got angry at Bill (American Kabuki), she called him "an agent"

 

> see: http://www.greenenergyinvestors.com/index.php?showtopic=19714

[drbubb]

Apart from Peter Van Runt's interview, we have not seen a decent apology from anyone in Swiss Indo.

 

We have had a tear-'em-up, and settle-old scores Video from Mel Vee

Global Initiatives Review with Mel Ve - SWISSINDO 03 July 2015

 

And believe it our not, some useful idiots (like those in the following video, are still promoting Swissindo,

trying to explain-away yet another missed deadline.

 

If there is justice in the world, karma will come round and deliver some "awkward truth" to the gullible souls, who still believe

 

Swissindo--Talk w the Delegates: UPDATES SINCE THE DEADLINE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMj95hLLUcw

Published on Aug 23, 2015

 

It is NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, PHIL !
Stop promoting an old scam, or your reputation may be permanently impaired !

 

Notice that you are not allowed to comment on that channel.

They are hiding from all the people who have seen through this nonsense.

It is complete and utter horsefeathers! There are no two ways about it.

[FriarN]

Ron's Video :

10-20-15 - WERE OPPT & SWISS INDO SCAMS?

...Has triggered many interesting comments - these are from under the video - and my own are included

 

Friar Newborg 18 hours ago

Ron, in a way you attitude towards OPPT (and Heather) and Swissindo (and Mr Sino) is understandable.

No one wants to think, initially, that people with grand and positive visions for humanity are ignoble. But the reality is, the very best con-artists are the ones who can paint grand visions and have the charisma to get the people around them to buy into the vision too. In the Swissindo interview, they spoke about the "Reality Distortion Zone", and charismatic people like Steve Jobs, Mr Sino, and Heather Tucci Jarraf can create near themselves. Yes, good charismatic individuals can do that, and they did that too with the visions they promoted, IMHO. They make these great fantasies seem real. And people prefer to "puff on the Hopium" rather than doing the hard work to research and examine the hard facts. Peter has been very open, and I think very honest in explaining how he got sucked in, and why he went on believing in Sino's vision. When you hear part 4, I think you will learn more about the cracks that appeared, and how it unraveled.

+ 9 x thumbs up !

wilf609 9 hours ago

Of course the OPPT, Swissindo, the "Dragon Families", the fake "Ambassador", the Dinar RV etc. are scams, only the very gullible fell for them.

The people who believe them are mostly the lazy ones, who just want to sit back and have people give them gold or money.

paradoxman316 9 hours ago

+wilf609 Bullshit! We are the people who want to see real changes in the world, including the end of the criminal cabal.

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Furthermore, many of us were working 16-20 hours a day for free, because we believed in what we were doing. I know I sacrificed my health in that was, which is why I have chosen to limit my time on the computer compared to what it used to be. Of course now that I'm feeling better, the time is increasing again, which I have to watch more closely.

Diane Fernberg 25 minutes ago

+paradoxman316 If you're working for 16-20 hours for free, you are a fool...

merlinhadninelives 9 hours ago (edited)

+Softlywinged So good to see you here again:) I hope to see more coming back, Alithea Kella, Ashllyne and all who were here from the heart. I always give gifts to others when it's my birthday.. for in the reality of our being many other hearts, minds and souls are inter-connected. I hope Ron's birthday tomorrow becomes the hallmark as the rebirth of his true mission...

Softlywinged 9 hours ago

+merlinhadninelives Greetings dearheart It's nice to be back....I was led yesterday to come here and led again to come today....I feel like I've come home. I hope for the same, I've really missed him....

merlinhadninelives 8 hours ago

+paradoxman316 Thank you for the response... Ashllyne is the one who went to a workshop. Alithea Kella is the other. I have always spoken up for Ashllyne because when she was going to the workshops, she wrote me asking me to attend as well... My work schedule prevented that. She subsequently wrote me privately about what happened. I think you missed the sequence with your illness but time will reveal the truth to you...

 

FriarFrank Newborg 6 hours ago (edited)

+merlinhadninelives : I have had only positive experiences with Ashllyne. She went to the DS seminar, and attended Gwen seminar ONLY because she had been told that this was the way to get her project funded.

sprinklelouis 16 hours ago

Will you be doing a video titled,"the ambassador,why did he not show his face?" Over the years i have sent you info on swissindo,heather,oppt and a recent one on some individual scammer. you dismissed me each time even though I presented you with proof. You are so loyal Ron that it blinds you.

QUESTIONS for Peter Van Runt:

Diane Fernberg 7 hours ago

Ron you are finally starting to come out of your trance. Now it is time for you to apologize to so many of us who warned you for years. Thank goodness Peter Van Runt had the courage to tell the truth.

ClearVision OfTruth 4 hours ago

+Diane Fernberg : I think I may do another interview with Peter after this one is fully released. Do you have questions for him?

Diane Fernberg 4 hours ago

+ClearVision OfTruth Great idea! Especially since Ron is still in the matrix unfortunately.

Please ask Peter about his position on OPPT. What is his position on Heather? How does he feel that Brian has now disconnected from OPPT and joined New Earth Nation? What is his view about Brian completely not acknowledging his role in OPPT? What is his views on Sacha Stone and New Earth Nation? What is his views on Lisa Harrison? What is his views on D from Removing the Shackles? What is his views on American Kabuki? Does he know what happened to Bob Wright? Does he know what happened to Chris Hales? What happened to all the money that people donated to OPPT to buy the RV's? Is Peter comfortable with his wife working for the government and living off her money while Peter is against that government? Thank you!

ClearVision OfTruth 2 hours ago

One of those I can guess the answer: "hat happened to all the money that people donated to OPPT to buy the RV's?" Sex, Drugs, and Rock-and-Roll?? (haha)

Diane Fernberg 2 hours ago

+ClearVision OfTruth Meanwhile Ron is STILL supporting those thieves while shutting down and insulting innocent people on his channel. Amazing Ron can be so consistently wrong and filled with his Ego!

Diane Fernberg 40 minutes ago

+ClearVision OfTruth Also, how can Sacha Stone own a Villa in Bali and an estate in London and say he has no money? Here is a photo of Brian Kelly at Sacha Stone's Villa in Bali: http://newearthhaven.com/bali/