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Are Clinton and Bush Un-electable in 2015-16 America?


Reject the Selection : Odious Politicians




'Ere we go, 'ere we go, 'ere we go...


" we came to the conclusion that Greece should not pay this debt because it is illegal, illegitimate, and odious."

> http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-17/greek-debt-committee-just-declared-all-debt-illegal-illegitimate-and-odious


In June 2015 Greece stands at a crossroad of choosing between furthering the failed macroeconomic adjustment programmes imposed by the creditors or making a real change to break the chains of debt...

. . .

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Just as Greece is aiming to shed its odious debts....


We, in the West, must learn to REJECT THE SELECTION of old-style politicians "bought" by banksters and billionaires




ie NOT support the odious politicians that the elites put in front of us,

people like Hillary Clinton, and Jeb Bush.

They must be rejected... then later maybe arrested, and tried for crimes they may have committed


What's Hot- GOP :: https://twitter.com/search/?q=%23GOPDebate&src=hash

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We-the-people seem to be waking up, and

We are fixing to DELETE Mrs Clinton from the Presidential Race.

It would be a great victory for the Light


Hillary UNFAVORABLE Rating just keeps going North



Pollster Trend

  • Unfavorable 49.6%
  • Favorable 45.2%
  • Undecided

Latest: NEW! 6/11 - 6/14 - at the time of her "relaunch"


Pollster Dates Pop. Favorable Unfavorable Undecided Margin PPP (D)

1,129 LV

43% -51% 6 Undecided : Unfavorable +8

> http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/hillary-clinton-favorable-rating


This is a great sign that people are waking up.


I still think she will withdraw, if/when her unfavorability hits 65-70%

That's really very high during a campaign


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Hillary's Bernie Problem Just Got WAY Worse

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Anyone else is better than Hillary Bush


Green Party’s Jill Stein Announces She Is Running for President

Posted by GPD on June 22, 2015

DemocracyNow.org Interviews Dr. Jill Stein on her 2nd Run for US President as True Independent Candidate



Dr. Jill Stein has officially launched her campaign as a Green Party candidate for the 2016 presidential race and everyone needs to take notice.



“I have a people-powered campaign,” Stein notes. “I am running with the only national party that does not take corporate funding.” Stein, a physician and activist who first ran in 2012, outlines her platform. She joins the fray as the race for the Democratic Party nomination heats up.

Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, a self-proclaimed democratic socialist, has emerged as Hillary Clinton’s main rival for the party’s nomination, as his poll ratings have surged in recent weeks.

“Hillary is the Wal-Mart candidate. She has been a member of the Wal-Mart board. On jobs, on trade, on healthcare, on banks, on foreign policy, it is hard to find where we are similar.”

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ONE Program, Two tickets

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HUFFPOLLSTER: What The Latest Polls Don't Mean For 2016

Posted: 06/26/2015 9:11 am EDT Updated: 06/26/2015 9:59 am EDT

Shifts in the 2016 polls may be less meaningful than they seem. Donald Trump's "surge" may be less than meets the eye. And the latest CDC estimates show landlines are continuing to disappear from American households. This is HuffPollster for Friday, June 26, 2015.

A flurry of new national polls this week (from NBC/Wall Street Journal, Fox News and YouGov/Economist), as well as new surveys in Iowa and New Hampshire have political junkies buzzing, many focusing on a modest increase of support on some of these polls for businessman Donald Trump. With more than six months before the first primaries and over a year until the party conventions, it's a good time to revisit reasons why such minor shifts are less meaningful than they may appear.

National polls sample primary voters too broadly - National media polls ask their horserace questions on the Republican and Democratic nomination contests of very broad swaths of potential voters. Most report results among all registered voters who identify or lean to each party, amounting to roughly half of their samples of all U.S. adults.

Yet the actual turnout in the various primaries and caucuses is much lower. In 2008, the combined Democratic and Republican turnouts in all primary and caucus contests nationwide was roughly a quarter of the adult population. It fell to just over 10 percent in 2012 thanks to a non-competitive Democratic contest, according to voter turnout statistics maintained by University of Florida Prof. Michael McDonald.


The bottom line, however, is that national polls are sampling a pool of potential primary voters that is two to three times larger than those who will participate in the primary process nationwide.

. . .

For Republicans, there is no dominant front-runner - That's the one finding consistent across all of the recent polling on the Republican field and, for the moment at least, the only one worth paying attention to. A handful of candidates get support in the low teens, but for now at least, they all fall far short of the support they will need to capture their party's nomination.



Watch out for the "statistical tie" - A new University of New Hampshire poll released on Thursday gives former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton an 8 percentage point (43 to 35 percent) advantage over Sen. Bernie Sanders. Previous UNH polls had shown Clinton leading by much wider margins. Their release says Clinton "is now in a statistical tie" with Sanders in New Hampshire, because the margins of sampling error around each percentage (+/- 5) overlap.

The problem with statistical tie is that it implies the race is "tied." It isn't. It's just a small advantage not large enough to allow 95 percent or better statistical confidence that it's a lead


> more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/26/2016-national-polls-analysis_n_7670734.html

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False Flags, TPP, and Government Tyranny & Lies with Robert David Steele


Published on 19 Jun 2015

False flag terrorism, TPP secrets, and how the richest 1% are killing the goose that killed the golden egg are discussed with Robert David Steele. The former reform party candidate for president explains how there are seven shadow governments at work in America, and how billionaires are exploiting the government, and how neither Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren can save us from corruption. The reason Obama should be impeached, and the overwhelming need for electoral reform is discussed in this uncensored Buzzsaw interview, hosted by Sean Stone.

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Donald Trump: 'I Will Win The Latino Vote' (Full Interview) | NBC News



"No need to be walking the streets... I got more media staying here"'


Yep. Over 213,000 hits in 5 days

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The Silent generation "lucked out" - but other generations have not... and may be radicalized



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Yes, political correctness is dangerous - especially when we do not know WHO is driving the PC agenda.


Joseph Atwill has some fascinating ideas about what may be behind the Agenda


Jumping the Bandwagon | Joseph Atwill

Published on Jul 10, 2015

Joseph Atwill is author of the controversial work, Caesar's Messiah; http://freemantv.com/jumping-the-band... an exploration in the social engineering campaign of the Christian religion and the believed purpose of the Bible but, we're not going to talk about any of that. I want to know Joe's opinions on the mind control propaganda of right now! Can homosexuality be used as a weapon? Is the Rainbow Flag a method of Social Engineering? Will the removal of the Confederate flag end racism? This is an animated show that I hope inspires you to start you own Friendship Agenda and join with us to be the change we want to see.


He starts off condemning Hillary as a live-long actor, and a "political fake" - trying to keep two opposing political groups voting for her


Bill Clinton is: "an intellectual weapon, produced by the oligarchs"


You don't get to vote on the REAL Issues. Instead, you are voting on fake conflicts,

while the Federal Reserve stays in control of the money, and allows the oligarchs to go on building their fortunes

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Reject the selection !


"Mainstream" old politicians like Bush and Clinton

have raised billions from banksters at places like Goldman Sachs,

and other outrageously profitable banking houses, to:


Buy your votes... using adverts on social media sites.


You will not be seeing those Ads here.

But I would love to have some of their supporters show up, and debate the merits of voting for these two


Campaign filings show where big money is going - FT, pg


Financial declarations fail to tell the whole story, as super-Pac contributions

are not included


Quick rundown:



1. Jeb Bush is getting a lot of money from Wall Street


Good, let them waste it... Reject THEIR selection


2. Hillary Clinton's campaign is not as cheap as we thought


She's not "cheap", she's just "damaged goods"... Reject THEIR selection


3. Raising campaign funds is proving a struggle for some


Change the laws, and make it tough for all ... Reject THEIR selection


4. FEC filings only tell part of the story


Those favored few (who get money from Super PACs run to benefit

controversial causes like those of Zionist Israel can hide donations

... Reject THEIR selection


Which slogan wins?

Reject the Selection : Feel the Bern. Hillary, Withdraw

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TRUMP didn't make the "selection list", and look how he is doing!


Trump Leads Nevada Poll with Overwhelming Hispanic Support

Trump Has Commanding Overall Lead of 27.7% in Nevada Poll with 31.4% Support by Hispanics

WASHINGTON, July 16, 2015 /PRNewswire/ -- One America News Network, "OAN", a credible source for 24/7 national and international news, released today its most recent 2016 Republican and Democratic Presidential Polling Results for Nevada conducted by Gravis Marketing. The results show that GOP Presidential candidate Donald Trump has a commanding lead of 27.7%, with recently announced Presidential Candidate Scott Walker in second with 15%. In third is Ben Carson with 7.8% with Jeb Bush a point behind at 6.8%. Marco Rubio rounds out the top five with 5.4%.

With polled Hispanics, Presidential Candidate Trump received 31.4%, higher than his overall performance of 27.7%. The only other Presidential Candidate to receive double digit support by Hispanics is Scott Walker with 11.4%.

[link to www.prnewswire.com]

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Bernie just got the LARGEST crowd of any candidate in the campaign


Bernie Sanders Rally in Madison, Wisconsin

Streamed live on 1 Jul 2015

Bernie Sanders holds a campaign rally in Madison, Wisconsin


Bernie Sanders draws 10,000 people!!!


(take that, Hillary ! Are you "feeling the Bern"?)



Dear Hillary, Do America a favor, WITHDRAW. SANDERS 2016

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Bernie Sanders is one of the few Pols on the "right side" in this documentary on the Fed




Yet the mainstream has tried to ignore him (the Ron Paul treatment)


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(Can the rednecks on Godlike ever smarten up?

Let's see how they react to this suggestion):


Look at all that liberal-scum.



Who cares?
So long as their enthusiasm gets Hillary to drop out,
they are doing you a great service.
All those Clinton promises (that she made to get campaign dollars) will no longer be honored.

Her withdrawal is Good for America.

We need to work together in this way, to save our once-great country.

The elites have used divide and conquer strategies, and it is time for us to get smart.

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The Donald claims he got 15,000 to his campaign speech



And John McCain labelled them all as "crazies."

But I think sane people regard McCain as "crazy".
Says Trump: "I don't like Losers...
I don't like people who get captured...
He graduated LAST, or second to Last, in his class at Annapolis."


Amazingly, Trump says:

"I am religious... I am presbyterian."


"I WON'T go on record as saying I will not run as a Third Party candidate."

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Wow - a new Poll with many votes


Thank you for voting!


U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders. 85.65% (22,295 votes)


Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. 9.97% (2,594 votes)


Neither. 3.26% (849 votes)


I don't know. 1.12% (291 votes)


> http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/07/poll_would_you_vote_for_clinton_or_sanders_for_201.html


Goodbye, Hill.




Is this proof that 10% of Americans have serious brain damage

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Looks like EVEN MORE people turned up in Phoenix !


Bernie Sanders speaks to a very large crowd in Phoenix Arizona on July 18th 2015.




As Time magazine said:
"They cheered his indictment of a growing oligarchy:
58% of new American income goes to the top;
The top 10th of 1% have more wealth than the bottom 90%;
The gap is wider than at any point since 1928."
"Too many Democrats are owned by Big Money interests!"

To the billionaire class, he says" Their greed is going to have to end,
and we are going to end it for them."

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The Donald seems to be doing his best to reject the "selection" of Bush:


The majority of Republicans -- 57% -- had a favorable view of Trump and 40% had an unfavorable view or him in the latest Washington Post/ABC News poll. That's a big shift from late May, when the same poll found 65% of Republicans had an unfavorable view of Trump.


Why Donald Trump is surging in the polls

Laconia, New Hampshire (CNN)Donald Trump, surging in the polls, arrived at this lakeside enclave and trained his ire on perhaps the only target that aggravates his supporters as much as the Obama Administration: Republicans.


"They're all talk, they're no action," Trump said, revving up his fiery takedown of politicians.

"I'm more disappointed in many ways with the Republicans," Trump said. "They have this great indignation, whether it's Benghazi or the emails... nothing ever happens."

Trump is enjoying a summer surge as he takes the lead in a poll of Republican presidential contenders released on Friday. The billionaire businessman is offending Hispanics and irking his GOP competitors but it's clear that his in-your-face demeanor and willingness to take on President Barack Obama -- then just as quickly turn his sharp tongue toward members of his own party -- is winning over Republican voters.

"Even though I'm a Republican and I'm obviously voting that way, I'm very disappointed in the Republicans in the House. There's weakness there," said Julie Pagliarulo, a 56-year-old resident of Belmont, New Hampshire, who arrived hours early to see Trump speak.

"Donald just says it like it is. I love it."


> http://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/17/politics/donald-trump-summer-surge/

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Who is the Jackass ?



Lindsey Graham on the campaign trail?


Says Lindsey Graham about Trump (for picking on a "soft" target, like McCain):

"He's becoming a jackass when we need to have a serious debate about the future of our country...

All we're talking about is Donald Trump and everyone he insults."

- FT, pg. 3


Hey, Mr Graham, I think the poor leadership in Washington is a critical part of the needed "serious debate."


Meantime, the VT two-some has a few things to say on this and related issues:


Jim and Gordie Show:

By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor on July 21, 2015

Audio Player

Podcast: Play in new window | Download (Duration: 57:47 — 26.5MB) | Embed

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(Is Trump going to get the "Ron Paul treatment"? Not if I can help it!)


F--- Bush! F--- Clinton! F--- all those "mainstream" plastic candidates!

(F--- = Forget, btw)


This is worth listening to - It may not be what you expect


Donald Trump delivers an amazingly surreal speech in Las Vegas



Published on 11 Jul 2015

WATCH: Donald Trump Full Speech in Phoenix, AZ: https://youtu.be/r0UMsNUEZuI
Donald Trump just gave one of the most bizarrely captivating speeches of his several-week-old campaign (July 11, 2016)


The guy is One Million times more engaging than Mitt Romney (not saying much, but he needs that, as a rich guy)

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HUFFPost arrogantly accuses Trump of being arrogant


Forget you, Huffpost !

I can no longer take your rag seriously !

The directive came down last Friday from Huffington Post Washington Bureau Chief Ryan Grim and Editorial Director Danny Shea: No more coverage of Donald Trump under the site’s “Politics” banner; this show is moving to “Entertainment.” “Our reason is simple: Trump’s campaign is a sideshow,” wrote the editors. “We won’t take the bait. If you are interested in what The Donald has to say, you’ll find it next to our stories on the Kardashians and The Bachelorette.”
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Bought-and-paid for media (huffpost) calls him a "sideshow"
when he is the only Republican candidate since Ron Paul who talks about the Real Issues
And, btw, GEI is miles more honest that Huff-and-Puff Post

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Trump still leading after "McCain comments":


Trump Still Leads GOP Field But Descent May Be Beginning

PPP's newest national poll finds that Donald Trump is likely facing at least some fallout from his comments about John McCain over the weekend. Nevertheless we do find him narrowly leading the national field in our survey, which went into the field on Monday. Trump gets 19% to 17% for Scott Walker, 12% for Jeb Bush, 10% for Ben Carson and Marco Rubio, 8% for Mike Huckabee, 4% each for Ted Cruz, Carly Fiorina, and Rand Paul, 3% each for Chris Christie and John Kasich, 1% for Bobby Jindal, Rick Perry, and Rick Santorum, and less than 1% each for Jim Gilmore, Lindsey Graham, and George Pataki.


Trump's lead comes despite the fact that only 22% of Republicans agree with the comments he made about John McCain over the weekend compared to 50% who disagree. Despite his overall lead there are some signs that Trump's comments may have hurt him. For one thing his favorability rating is back down in the 40s, at 48/39. Although it's not a perfect comparison, our state polls in Virginia (58/32) and North Carolina (55/32) over the previous two weeks had found him with numbers in the mid to upper 50's. And although it's an even more imperfect comparison to compare numbers with other polling organizations, Trump's 2 point advantage is a lot less than the 11 point one had in an ABC/Washington Post poll conducted largely before Trump's comments about McCain.


Nevertheless Trump is doing well across the GOP electorate. He leads among voters who describe themselves as 'very conservative' with 20% to 17% for Walker and 16% for Carson. But he also has the advantage with moderates, getting 22% to 19% for Bush and 13% for Rubio. Additionally Trump has the lead both among primary voters who say their biggest concern is having the candidate who's the most conservative on the issues (he gets 20% to 16% for Walker, 12% for Huckabee, and 11% for Carson) and with primary voters who say their biggest concern is winning in the general election (19% to 16% for Walker, 14% for Bush, 13% for Rubio, and 10% for Carson.)

. . .

On the Democratic side Hillary Clinton leads with 57% to 22% for Bernie Sanders, 5% for Jim Webb, 3% for Lincoln Chafee, and 2% for Martin O'Malley. This does represent some tightening compared to a month ago- Clinton's gone from 65% to 57%, with Sanders gaining from 9% to 22%. Martin O'Malley's announcement bump has also faded, with his support dropping from 5% to 2%.

Clinton may be up by 35 points instead of 56 this month, but she's still pretty dominant across demographic lines. She is polling over 60% with liberals and seniors, and over 5o% with moderates, men, women, whites, and younger voters. Her area of greatest strength though is with African Americans, where she gets 82% to 6% for Sanders and 3% for Webb.


> http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/07/trump-still-leads-gop-field-but-descent-may-be-beginning.html


"Hillary Clinton leads with 57% to 22% for Bernie Sanders..."

who did they poll, drooling idiots?


CBS, NBC, MundoFox, Telemundo Refuse to Cover More Bad Poll Numbers for Hillary Clinton
By Curtis Houck | July 22, 2015 | 9:51 PM EDT

On Wednesday night, major broadcast networks CBS and NBC showed no interest in shedding light on the findings of new Quinnipiac poll that found Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s honest and trustworthy ratings are continuing to fall and she trails three possible GOP opponents in three battleground states.


While the CBS Evening News and NBC Nightly News focused exclusively on Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, ABC’s World News Tonight made time to report on both Trump and Clinton.


- See more at: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/curtis-houck/2015/07/22/cbs-nbc-mundofox-telemundo-refuse-cover-more-bad-poll-numbers#.chmls5:Urnz

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With UNFAVORABLE numbers like these, Hillary could run against Nobody and lose


The head-to-head match-ups in this poll mean nothing but the data on Hillary’s deteriorating image is — *mwah* — magnifique. First, the irrelevant yet sexy numbers showing her losing to Bush, Walker, and Rubio in Iowa, Virginia, and Colorado. It’s a perfect matrix of Democratic failure.


Great stuff … except that lots of voters in those states couldn’t pick the Republicans out of a line-up right now and have yet to digest a single Democratic attack ad. Those margins will change as the major players become more familiar and the parties start to clash. What might not change, or at least not as much, are Hillary’s own disastrous numbers on key character traits. Remember, Obama won all three of these states in both of his elections; her strategy next year is to replicate his coalition as much as possible. How’s that going to work with favorable ratings like this?


That’s why she trails Marco Rubio and Scott Walker even though most voters don’t know who Marco Rubio and Scott Walker are. Given her enormous fame, the election’s probably destined to become a sort of referendum on Hillary

. . .

One amazing detail that you won’t find in Quinnipiac’s write-up of the poll but will find in the crosstabs for each state is the gender gap. Have a look at the very first page of the Iowa, Virginia, and Colorado results and note how Hillary fares with men versus women in her head-to-head match-ups with various Republicans. She wins women consistently, often by large margins — but she’s also losing men consistently by even wider, sometimes huge, margins. Colorado especially shows astounding gender gaps, with Hillary beating Rubio and Walker there by 10 and 11 points, respectively, among women … while losing men by 26 and 28 points, respectively.


> http://hotair.com/archives/2015/07/22/quinnipiac-poll-hillarys-popularity-crumbles-in-three-swing-states-now-trails-three-top-republicans/

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