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PEOPLE WANT to see it working - that's the main point

 

(Comments, From Hopegirl's Blog):

 

Blaise / April 8, 2014

 

So we have lathes and a workshop in the UK capable of producing this kind of thing, but i am a little skeptic.

Would really like to see a volt amp meters connected to the input and output with the device running in an open space so that it is visible nothing else is supplying energy.

i do not think this device entirely impossible. An do have some ideas of a similar kind of device myself.

(one using form to amplify sound creating a standing wave which helps perpetuate the rotation of a flywheel)

 

If i see such results i would be happy to work (and could probably come up with funds to produce the design) with you and others that you are already in touch with in the UK to help bring free energy to the world.

BUT that is no ignoring that energy should already be free however we generate it, and until everybody can learn to work for free and not be let down by others abusing generosity, and overcome the fear of this. AND just share. Nothing will be free and people will always jostle for power through one-stuck-up-man-in-a-sinking-ship (capitalism for short)

  • sciosubspace
    April 9, 2014

    Hi Blaise,
    Where are you in the UK…I’m in Surrey, I believe this is real and would like to cooperate with serious pioneers. They are going to be in Morocco, could always go there and see for yourself…This is not a conventional generator, it works according to the laws of quantum physics and resonance. This project will develop according to opportunities given by us for it to succeed and a lot of it will have to do with our intention to make it happen. Let me know if you want to meet and take this project further…

     

    ==

    > https://hopegirl2012.wordpress.com/2014/04/03/if-you-build-it-and-give-it-away-they-will-come-qeg-full-disclosure/

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DrBubb

 

Would you place any of your own money on the outcome of this thing?

 

100% guaranteed nothing is going to come from this. If you think otherwise then put some money on it please.

 

I say 1000 USD nothing will come from this other than the same rubbish that Thrapps spews out year after year.

 

The entire QEG thing is bullshit from start to finish. The evidence is overwhelming that they are pretending they have something they do not have.

 

These QEG low lifes are ripping people off. Ordinary people are sending them money they probably can ill afford to spend simply because they have been conned - there can be no excuse for that kind of disgusting behaviour.

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DrBubb

 

Would you place any of your own money on the outcome of this thing?

 

Not at this stage.

But if you write me a Free CALL option in Free Energy technology, I will take it, at that price !

 

QEG may have PART of the solution, which that interesting GoToLuc Video suggests

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Hopegirl is also presenting here / Rising Earth / Saturday :

 

https://www.facebook.com/events/554051224715300/

Confirmed - per her FB):

"Saturday April 12 I will be attending the Rising Earth Event in London. Though not yet confirmed, I may give a presentation on the QEG. Will post here with more details as they come together"

 

Tickets are by Donation Suggested £30 - £50 But please pay what you can genuinely afford.

We welcome everyone, one and all!

http://bit.ly/risingearth

 

Excited to experience Hope Moore in all her delight! In conversation with all of us about the QEG free energy device.
Wanna know more?
http://www.fixtheworldproject.net

 

===

She's pretty clever, and may be able to sort out whatever problems were uncovered at the last presentation.

 

 

 

 

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DEMOs on Other Machines - and a Podcast on the QEG device

 

[12:11:00 PM]

brokenwrench: how the stargate motor works full demo

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xv-req4U8U

brokenwrench: gravity motor

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=980UZtrzuC8

 

brokenwrench: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shkFDPI6kGE
[6:36:03 PM]

shean.oppt: Some info & discussion about the QEG on the Mission I´MPossible radio show, starting at 33 minutes:
Podcast

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/expandinguradio/2014/04/12/mission-impossible
Thanks Ed

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=== === ===

A CONTINUING CONVERSATION

 

[4/9/2014 9:23:02 AM] jburnum: ######## QUESTIONS ########

1. Thrapp has mentioned that the 1.3Mhz signal connects the the device not only to quantum energy but also connects to the ionosphere. He made very strong claims that Nathan Stubblefield, Kapanadze, as well as Tesla using this exact Freq. I believe Tesla was in contact with Stubblefield to learn about this environmental energy 1.3Mhz as well. I'm also left to think that Moray was using this freq as well. If this is so, what kick starts the resonance in the electrical steel, or kick starts the tank circuit in the primary coils? And yes, I'm aware that Thrapp mentions that the exciter must be close to the generator, preferably between the DC motor and Generator. Exciter is only needed to entrain the process, and the antenna and earth ground are not needed after the entrainment period, possibly week(s), or month(s), but at some point, the energy just comes in and is lost if the device is moved. So then, the exciter is not what creates the kick to start the tank. Could it be the residual magnetic fields from the DC motor? Yes I've heard the response on the fluctuating henries, and this does make sense, but can you verify this?

2. How can I get involved or possibly get more training?

Thanks so much your time to answer. I do believe in this technology, due to research with electromechanical resonance on MetGlass, which is again silicon based steel.

Blessings,
Jeremy
[4/9/2014 9:49:58 AM] *** pyramidrich joined. ***
[4/9/2014 10:24:59 AM] jburnum: I just watched the beginning of this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJKE5DJRMFQ
The above answer is in this video. Sorry, if I may have wasting anyone's time.
Jeremy
[4/9/2014 10:26:24 AM] Robert Towers: Jeremy which question was answered 1 or 2 or both?
[4/9/2014 11:47:36 AM | Edited 11:48:37 AM] jburnum: Robert, first question was answered. Thank you for being patient until I caught up with the information. I wanted verification that the fluctuation of the henries was generating the voltage to start the electromechanical resonance. Yes I would still like to get involved to help train people. I am a professor at an established University with 15 years of experience in teaching. I have witnessed hours of training by Thrapp that did not go well. I am choosing to not go into details. Great person, besides what many say, but his methods of getting the information out to the people has failed unfortunately. I have 8 years of experience in electrical systems, mostly in OU designs. So I think I have many talents I can offer.
[4/9/2014 11:49:28 AM] Robert Towers: Jeremy indeed you do have many talents to share. How wonderful!
[4/9/2014 11:50:04 AM] Robert Towers: I also taught 14.5 years at a University at the end of my career before retiring.
[4/9/2014 11:50:20 AM] Asgardian: Jeremy , it's very nice to have you part of the team!

. . .

[4/9/2014 11:54:27 AM] jburnum: I don't claim to know everything, I remain humble so I can learn from everyone! But it is time to get this out, and let the people decide and I do have some decent resources to possibly share. So I'm ALL on board here.
[4/9/2014 11:55:30 AM] jburnum: I'm from the states, and have spent close to 15 hours with conversations with Thrapp to learn the technology.
[4/9/2014 11:56:10 AM] abellard1er: Jeremy- just to let you know that We are scheduled to built the QEG mid May in MOntreal
[4/9/2014 11:56:20 AM] Robert Towers: Jeremy its the putting all of our minds together as ONE then we can accomplish anything we desire.
[4/9/2014 11:57:31 AM] abellard1er: So I Hope every Mind will be waching The firs QEG in north America
[4/9/2014 11:58:21 AM] abellard1er: I mean In Canada
[4/9/2014 11:58:38 AM] jburnum: I agree and I'm have not seen such GREAT comradery in this field for a long time. So this is a breath of fresh air. And believe we have a huge positive force to make a REAL difference here.

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( And then THIS...)

 

[4/9/2014 11:59:30 AM]

Daryl Hansen: Ganesh - I recommend you (all of you) review much of the important information put out by the OPPT crew and Heather Ann Tucci- Jarraf, regarding the foreclosure of the slavery system. The information is in-depth. The data revealed, shows how the legal system was not lawful and how and why it was foreclosed. It may takew some time, but once you inderstand the basic concepts, you will be able to assimilate the information. This will help you get out of the slave mindset and recognize that you are a sovereign being.

Once you know this information inside and out, no one (or foreclosed entity) will be able to pretend they have jurisdiction over you.

http://i-uv.com
http://heatheranntuccijarraf.info

More interesting Links:

http://removingtheshackles.net
http://sitsshow.blogspot.com
http://americankabuki.blogspot.com
http://briankellysblog.blogspot.com
http://kauilapele.wordpress.com

 

(Just to remind us, not to take it too seriously perhaps?)

 

Some seemed to prefer:

* really don't wish to go into a discussion on that..."

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something other than an inverter

 

[4/9/2014 12:01:26 PM] Robert Towers: From the QEG Team:

Jamie is coming up with something other than an inverter that will work so we're not really encouraging people to buy them but to be patient.
[4/9/2014 12:02:24 PM] abellard1er: ok
[4/9/2014 12:05:13 PM] Robert Towers: I also have a file of a Tough Series Inverter that Naicheval sent me but we can't seem to post it in these rooms. Any suggetions?
[4/9/2014 12:06:24 PM] jburnum: Install dropbox, then create a public folder. Right click to share the link. Let me find instructions for you.
[4/9/2014 12:07:42 PM] jburnum: I believe this might help.
https://www.dropbox.com/help/167/en
[4/9/2014 12:08:45 PM] Robert Towers: Jeremy let me send the file directly to you.
[4/9/2014 12:09:44 PM] Robert Towers: Look on your private skype for file

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[4/10/2014 7:33:50 AM] rostislav.alexandrovich: ######## QUESTIONS ########
1. Witts website claims to have copyrights on their generator, and if the QEG is based on their schematics then doesn't it infringe on those copyrights?
here is a quote from Witts website: ""All these plans and classes are for individual use only, and all technical details must be kept private PLEASE RESPECT THESE COPYRIGHTS AND PATENTS!""

2.What is your estimate of durability of QEG? i understand it run into mechanical issues after the first run in Taiwan, can you please elaborate on your estimate/goal of how long this device should operate without needing a maintenance? (after R&D would be more done)
Thank you!
######## QUESTIONS ########
[4/10/2014 7:46:11 AM] *** westaff3 added globalcm_trader ***
[4/10/2014 7:57:34 AM] Ed Weatherall: Question 2 is addressed in the manual :) Question 1 .... MY OPINION is that Jamie has change it enough so that doesn't matter. I am pretty certain they wouldn't expose themselves to that risk. But I am not the one that would really know definitively...
[4/10/2014 8:13:16 AM] Ed Weatherall: Hi all ...here is the link to join the video chat rehearsal :)https://zoom.us/j/864390103 this will take you to the zoom site....and will prompt to install zoom client if you don't have it already :)
[4/10/2014 8:17:49 AM] stuartcampbell2012: Re Question One.
NOTE: I read this BUT haven't verified it personally.
Witts are perfectly happy with this development and Thrapps has given it his personal blessing. In fact so much so they are linking to it on their Witts site.
[4/10/2014 8:19:31 AM] Robert Towers: Good deal

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WITTS

 

[4/11/2014 4:54:39 AM] stuartcampbell2012: @Rostislav Alexandrovich
I looked up the Witts site and this was what they said:
"In response to the Fix the World Project’s endeavor, we are making additional efforts to ensure people know that help is available for serious builders of this 40kw self-running machine."
URL:
http://www.witts.ws/40kw-self-running-generator-qeg-help/
[4/11/2014 4:56:48 AM] Larry: yeah, if you've got $100,000 they'll be glad to help

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Val answers a Question

 

[4/11/2014 7:32:48 AM] naicheval.robitai:

 

1. QUESTION: (Hydrogen Junkie) Refereing to the manual it says to tig weld in four places. Are these places set in stone. Do you need to use M19 rod or can you use mild steel or can you mig weld?
Hello Hydrogen Junkie.. The TIG weld locations are not set in stone. The outfit we got our core from figured those were the best weld locations for that lamination stack, and it does work well. The winders here in Taiwan mentioneed they would like to see welds along the sides of the poles. It's probly best to keep welds at a minimum though. The welds are just to hold the stack together until you get the bolts in. Helps keep it together in shipping also. You know it's not steel rod right? The core is made up of 140 .025" thick laminations in a 3-1/2" stack. The steel is type M19 electrical steel. It's actually a replacement type for M21 steel which has been obsolete for at least 15 years. At .025" thickness, the M19 has about the same properties as M21. I'm not sure if you can MIG weld, I'm not really a welding expert
[4/11/2014 8:39:45 AM]

gmeader: QUESTION:
gmeader: QUESTION: What exactly does "we have resonance" mean?

. . .

[4/12/2014 1:37:30 AM] linda.l.livesay: Do you have a link to Jamie's Q & A for tonite?

You were discussing different venues and do not see where you made a decision. Help. Would like to have my son in it with me. Thanks
Asgardian: I believe any link would be by invitation only.

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[4/12/2014 2:15:21 AM] Asgardian: When any news comes in, we will post it here in the forum

linda.l.livesay: Thanks. My son is an Electrical Engineer and works for Bosche. He wants to be involved to see if we can get a group together here in Anderson, SC but he keeps asking me questions that I cannot answer. If you have decided how to do the Q & A, is it possible to invite him? If so, what info do you need to invite him? (sun)
Shean: Linda, your son may want to have a look here: http://be-do.com site with info about the QEG
linda.l.livesay: Thanks, I have given him that link. He said the last time he looked at Q & A, there was nothing there. I will go check it out again. I told him things were changing so fast that we may want to wait a little before jumping in. Thanks you Shean. This is just so exciting that I am having a hard time not wanted to get started NOW. You know what I mean I am sure. Thank all of you so much for keeping us updated. Love to all. (heart)(sun)
linda.l.livesay: Oh, wow. That site is really improved. This will give him all he needs for now. Thanks again and thanks to all who are keeping the site going.
Shean: you´re welcome... I don´t think there is going to be any ´life´ Q&A session with the team in Taiwan, at least not anytime soon, it´s 4:15 am there

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[12:21:37 AM]

steve.sager2: If anyone has any questions for Val and Jamie post them here and I will ensure they get them. Thanks
steve.sager2: Please use the format QUESTION before your question please.
raymond.gordon: QEUESTION:
Can the DC Drive motor be any motor driven by any AC or DC current independent of the Accumulator. If we use a AC or DC servo or any motor driven by a Variable Frequency Drive (VFD) supplied by mains power for experimental and tunning purposes this would provide less complexity instead of concentrating on recyling power from the accumulator through inverters from the start up on a first build.

raymond.gordon: QUESTION:
Are there any alternate materials that are acceptable for the accumulator end plates. Would Nylon or Puck Board work. Would they be mechanically workable. Is there a seriouis concern in this part regarding static electrical buildup and an electrical insulation factor. Do they need to be less than fully rigid based on the design only being anchored at the base to wood rather than the design fully framed and anchored at both the top and the bottom with a steel frame. QEG has been faithful to the WITTS design in this regard, is there a reason for this?

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DrBubb,

 

While the QEG plays out to its likely conclusion, is it possible to research more into 'more credible' claims from outfits such as Solar Hydrogen Trends [ http://solarhydrogentrends.com/ ] ?

 

Apparently, beneath the public disclosures, the team is taking some funding from foreign governments (or VCs) which is preventing further technical disclosures. Maybe, with the community's finance background, we can find out more?

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Sure - we can look into other devices.

 

But if you want to do so, perhaps we should start a new thread.

Do you know how to do that?

Or do you want me to do so?

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For BOB the Builder-types ?

 

bob-the-builder-icon-v8.jpg

 

[4:54:50 AM] johnnblade: for builders only

. . .

johnnblade: not theorizing Hippies
johnnblade: talking shit on for hours and hours and not building shit
johnnblade: skype:?chat&blob=6qZLNOiRbbJn_g9KaFflrNhmm33i3zHfF1xT14ENvm1vXzBVsRBiiQL1oahSQ8YAfQTJHhQ
. . .

bodyart1812: hhh
bodyart1812: @JB I'm just a theoretizing freak.. not building... cause I can not afford it now
bodyart1812: so I stay here for i while
johnnblade: hahahah cools man, see you soon

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DrBubb,

 

While the QEG plays out to its likely conclusion, is it possible to research more into 'more credible' claims from outfits such as Solar Hydrogen Trends [ http://solarhydrogentrends.com/ ] ?

 

Solarhydrogentrends is another scam claiming they can create silly amounts of hydrogen from water with a tiny amount of electricity where 1 Kg of hydrogen and oxygen mysterously gets converted to 1 kg of pure hydrogen.

 

Once again the known laws of physics get suspended and GOD is involved.

 

http://revolution-green.com/hydrogen-production-breakthrough/

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Solarhydrogentrends is another scam claiming they can create silly amounts of hydrogen from water with a tiny amount of electricity where 1 Kg of hydrogen and oxygen mysterously gets converted to 1 kg of pure hydrogen.

 

Once again the known laws of physics get suspended and GOD is involved.

 

http://revolution-green.com/hydrogen-production-breakthrough/

 

Maybe we can move these posts to a separate threads, but didn't they have some sort of third-party confirmations? The scientists were also getting (or trying to get) the results published in peer-reviewed scientific journals. Oh, in addition, there is some other cheap consumable involved in the reaction.

 

The spirituality / religious beliefs of the inventors are orthogonal to the working of the scheme (well, if they say that it will work for person X only if person X believe in their god, then it is definitely a scam!).

 

One additional point is that they are working out of the San Francisco Bay Area and, while a lot of ideas pitched to VCs never get to the mass market even if funded, the fact that they were able to get a grant and third-party verification merits some more digging into, all IMHO.

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What kind of reputable scientist writes a letter like this??

 

Hakop Jack Aganyan
President
Solar Hydrogen Trends Inc.
Dear Simon,
As someone rightly pointed out at the forum that I do not have time to answer hundreds of questions.However, ignoring your question, certainly would be understood by all of you as cowardness or scientific unsoundness.

Your calculations are absolutely correct, if it only operates from concepts of gravitational and electromagnetic interactions, but the nucleons in nuclei are binding with interaction which is called in nuclear physics “strong interaction ” (nuclear strong force or color force) which is equal to (7-8) MeV / nucleon.

We have managed to make these forces work for us in our hydrogen reactor “Symphony 7A”.

If you promise to keep my secret than I will only reveal that secret to you.

As it is known “Strong interaction” in the nuclei, the distances between the nucleons is ~
(XX-XX
) fm (femtometers), Binds them into the nuclei.

In the hydrogen reactor “Symphony 7A”. due to the collective excitation of nucleons from the external electrical source ( just 0.5 Kwt / h we were able to increase the distance between nucleons to a magnitude of ~ (
XX-XX
), fm in strong interaction in the beginning it drops to zero and then starts to push away nucleons , causing decay of the nucleus.

As my partner Jack Aganyan likes to say I should tell myself to stop now.

Because 2-3 more words and absolutely everything will become clear to you how in the hydrogen reactor “Symphony 7A”. 1liter of water is converted into 1kg of hydrogen.

P.S. Last time I was so sincere and open that was back in 1961 in the conversation with the great Niels Bohr.

Sincerely,

Konstantin Balakiryan

PhD Professor

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the fact that they were able to get a grant and third-party verification merits some more digging into, all IMHO.

 

The organisation claimed to have provided a grant says:

 

http://www.gallowaynielsenfoundation.com/grantees.asp

 

The Foundation has awarded several grants to date. The recipients are Dr. Rajendra Niraula, The Cheetah Conservation Fund and The Institute for Innovation and Entrepreneurship, located at Central Washington University in Ellensburg, Washington

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What kind of reputable scientist writes a letter like this??

 

That guy is 60+, probably not well-versed in Internet posting etiquette etc. A Google search even throws up a result with his comments on a Kardashian blog which really pulls down his credibility. I mean, if I were a scientist, even if I wanted to put a comment on a Kardashian blog, I would choose a more 'anonymous' account. He does have one more post with a solution for an oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico seabed.

 

That said, the whole team is comprised of Armenians, and I see no result for their papers (if any) on Google Scholar. If I were a journalist covering these guys, I would first make sure that their background claimed is correct. Also, need to ensure that they got the grant as claimed and why it is not on the 'Grantees' list on their site.

 

Mark Dansie @ R-G supposedly has more information that he is waiting to do a post on.

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(I will listen with an Open Mind):

 

Hope Girl London QEG presentation part 1

= https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zThIXTt8QM =

Published on 12 Apr 2014

So sorry but I had no space on my phone camera but I get some good info on what the fix the world project are up to.

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[4/13/2014 11:58:31 PM]

Ed Weatherall: youtube of todays video QandA :)
Graeme Mudie: Fantastic!!!!! (y)\o/

 

4 13 14 QEG Video

 

Published on Apr 13, 2014

Latest Developments with QEG replication in Taiwan .... significant breakthrough in understanding the tuning process :-)

" You've got to let the machine do what it wants to do ....it's a high voltage machine"

 

They say that it is a High Voltage, Low Current machine, rather than the reverse.

But I reckon it may be difficult to harness those big swings with true efficiency

 

== REACTIONS ==

 

[1:21:28 AM - Apr.14th]

Wim Derix: If it is a high voltage machine now.... Why not make several smaller coils, connected in paralel.
This as the output coil.
That will lower the output Voltage and increase the Amps.
Graeme Mudie: Why are they surprised that it is a high voltage low current device. I have always been under the impression that was a well-known fact!!! I’m sure WITTS says this or I have seen it somewhere. But they must have known this from their prototype or am I missing something?
Graeme Mudie: Surely that is why they are using 2000v caps.
Paul fromMinnesota: Yes, you must be missing something :)
Graeme Mudie: What is it then? ;)
Graeme Mudie: Fantastic work well worth the wait.
Wim Derix: those caps are on the first set of coils, not the output coil
Graeme Mudie: Ah ok thanks.

 

[12:17:05 AM] Graeme Mudie: Fantastic!!!!! (y)\o/
townhill263: http://youtu.be/2nTgfrjnZEY
townhill263: Latest update video

 

[11:24:35 AM] Grant Horsfall: QEG Germany got Resonance 5kV @ 500mA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a2wHKr0JAg
Published on Apr 13, 2014

 

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I don't have the patience to sit through / listen to 53 minutes of a video. Can someone summarize what the current status in TW is? Obviously, Skype group is pretty much 'uncooperative'.

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