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Nigel Farage: An Emerging Leader for the UK?

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Oh dear. I was such a fan.

http://www.veteranst...sens-defection/

 

I haven't read it, but would instinctively be wary of propaganda against Farage, the same way as figures like George Galloway are vilified and demonised in the mainstream media....

 

(not that I like Farage or Galloway as people particularly, or even uncritically support their politics, but they do voice unpalatable truths)

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A couple of weeks earlier she had described Farage’s leadership as “Stalinist” and said that he promotes people who “will never contradict him”.

 

very ironic given NF's view of the EU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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very ironic given NF's view of the EU !

 

Some think: "We become what we hate"

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Nigel Farage calls for violent revolution

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

 

Nigel Farage was at the centre of a row last night after appearing to suggest ‘violence’ could be justified to overthrow Brussels bureaucrats.

 

The Ukip leader warned that the EU was heading for ‘revolution’ and said violent protest could be the only way for southern European nations to save their democracies.

 

He also compared ‘emergency powers’ adopted by EU leaders during the euro crisis to Adolf Hitler’s suspension of democracy in 1930s Germany.

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Daily Mail

- ‎10 minutes ago‎











Controversial MEP Godfrey Bloom 'quit' UKIP yesterday with an extraordinary parting rant at the party and the journalist who helped bring about his downfall.

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Some think: "We become what we hate"

 

Hmm I have to admit I was not aware. A little digging:

"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster."
-Friedrich Nietzsche
+ he also said
The man of knowledge must be able not only to love his enemies but also to hate his friends.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
= interesting if rather long
- not sure about this one...

 

http://bolesblogs.com/2005/05/30/we-become-what-we-hate/

 

One bit of hard advice I received while I was a graduate student at Columbia University in the City of New York was the warning that — if you are not vigilant and demanding of your talent every day — you will slowly become what you hate.

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Like most US political parties, UK parties are tainted by an Israeli connection - Can it be cut?:

 

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Thursday, May 8th, 2014 | Posted by Stuart Littlewood
Is UKIP the ‘White Knight’ of British Politics

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‘Sir Nigel’ rides forth….

 

Is UKIP the ‘white knight’ of British politics or just another mercenary of the pro-Israel Lobby?

 

UKIP (UK Independence Party) is poised to cause an earthquake in British politics at the European elections on 22 May. The mainstream parties – Conservatives, Labour and Liberal Democrats – are panicking as they watch UKIP surge ahead in the polls.

 

So much so that they are reported to be conspiring to brand UKIP racist.

If UKIP’s leader, Nigel Farage, is smart he’ll turn the tables and throw the spotlight on the three parties’ avid support for the racist Israeli regime and its apartheid policies that have terrorised, tormented and dispossessed the Arab Christians and Muslims in the Holy Land throughout the 66 years of brutal occupation. He could expose the many MPs who actively support this criminal cruelty through their membership of Friends of Israel groups that are allowed to flourish in those parties.

However, UKIP now has its own Israel fan club, an unseemly blot on any white knight’s escutcheon. But Farage, if not already compromised by Israel lobby funds, should shut it down and hold up his action as a shining example, challenging the others to follow. Of course they will not, or cannot, because they rely so heavily on funding from the same source and are terrified of the backlash. Their paralysis could therefore give UKIP the moral high ground. At the same time UKIP would earn the respect of the rapidly growing BDS movement (Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions), whose campaign against corporates that profit from the Occupation are having considerable success.

 

Some 80% of Conservative MPs/MEPs are reported (by Peter Oborne http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/9740044/The-cowardice-at-the-heart-of-our-relationship-with-Israel.html ) to be signed-up Friends of Israel, which raises the question, Why? Anything to do with Israel Lobby funding? If so how can we rely on them to put British interests first?

It is also said that membership of FoI is an essential stepping-stone to high office. This seems to be confirmed when you look at the involvement in FoI of the Government’s top post-holders.

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Freed from the EU only to be chained to Israel

I’m unable to find a link on UKIP’s website to the party’s current foreign policy document. In last year’s policy statement ‘Out of the EU, into the world’ www.ukip.org/media/policies/UKIPforeignaffairs.pdf (but no longer accessible) UKIP was saying it “fully supports the right of Israel to exist as a Jewish state… Israel is surrounded by hostile states committed to its destruction. The tiny state has been the frequent victim of rocket attacks and suicide bombings from terrorist groups, almost all deliberately targeting civilians. Israel has every right to respond with proportionate force to these attacks, and a UKIP government would do the same were Britain similarly threatened.”

 

Ridiculous. Britain is not illegally occupying, blockading, dispossessing and committing war crimes against its neighbour, so where is the comparison?

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David Cameron brands Nigel Farage and Ukip a threat to Britain
The Guardian-3 hours ago
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Farage might be a threat... to someone (already in office)

David Cameron has warned that Nigel Farage presents a "threat" to the wellbeing of the British economy because the Ukip leader wants to "give up" on Britain's role as an outward trading nation.

In some of his harshest words about Ukip, the prime minister accused Farage of promoting a "totally unrealistic, pessimistic vision" which would make Britain turn its back on the world.

Cameron, who admitted that the Tories face a tough fight in the European elections on 22 May as opinion polls point to a Ukip victory, asked voters to support the "politics of the answer rather than the politics of anger".

Farage could be the most talented politician of his generation.
His voice resonates with so many people

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UKIP to 'retain more support' in run-up to 2015 election
BBC News-7 May 2014
Its study concludes that almost 60% of people planning to vote for UKIP in this month's elections also intend to do so at the 2015 general ...

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There are three key questions Ukip must answer at the May elections

 

It's not all plain sailing for the party everyone is tipping at the European elections, starting with how to broaden its appeal
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'Evidence of racism and allegations of expense fiddling are not denting Farage’s support, but they are piling on the pressure.'

 

Can Ukip broaden its base?

It is no coincidence that Ukip's election broadcast features lots of women, young people and minorities. These groups tend to shun the party. Nigel Farage is keenly aware of the problems this poses, which is why nine women appear in the party's top three spots on the regional lists from which MEPs are elected.

Since 2010, Ukip has relied heavily on a base of financially disadvantaged, old white men. There are lots of these left-behind voters, which is why Farage is hoping to "double down" on them in May, touring northern England and using billboards to target their intense concerns over immigration, Europe and "out-of-touch" elites...

 

Can Ukip identify local strongholds for 2015?

What began in the 1990s as a fringe rebellion by disgruntled Tories in the southern shires has quickly grown into the most significant challenge to the main parties for a generation. But Ukip remains hampered by the first-past-the-post system, which heavily penalises new parties with evenly spread support. To convert votes into seats, Ukip needs to build local strongholds where it can demonstrate a real ability to compete on the ground.

It is the local elections next month that offer real insight into Ukip's reach and prospects for 2015. This will be its last chance before the general election to demonstrate election-winning strength. Ukip will be looking for areas where it can top the poll and get councillors elected, because strong local results can be used as evidence that Ukip is credible locally. This is why many senior Ukippers are secretly more interested in these local battles than the European contest; they know they need another wave of local gains to have even a chance of causing an upset in 2015. For this reason, we will also be analysing the local polls: a cluster of Ukip councillors returning to town halls may well be a leading indicator of a strong Ukip challenge next May.

 

Can the party stand the pressure?

While Ukip is used to fending off attacks, the current wave of negative publicity is simply unprecedented in its history. Evidence of racism and allegations of expense fiddling are certainly not denting Farage's support, but they are piling on the pressure and fuelling his long-held frustration with Ukip's amateurism, as well as potentially putting off voters outside the party's core electorate who are more sensitive to concerns about extremism and incompetence.

 

> more: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/06/three-key-questions-ukip

 

Comments

 

Crossroadnalities / 06 May 2014 8:13am

The base is already broadening and people are simply disregarding the tired and stale accusations of racism.

 

DeeDee99 / 06 May 2014 8:24am

"Nigel Farage is keenly aware of the problems this poses, which is why nine women appear in the party's top three spots on the regional lists from which MEPs are elected."

Completely and utterly wrong. UKIP selects its MEP candidates via an Assessment Centre selection process and the final shortlist is then put to the membership and they can vote for up to 10 candidates.

Our female and ethnic minority candidates got their through a fair selection system and a democratic ballot: they got there on merit. Not through positive discrimination and not because Mr Farage wanted them there.

"Such an outcome would represent a rejection of Britain's entire political establishment by a large section of the electorate"

The Establishment and its lackeys in LibLabCON decided that the UK must be sunk into a United States of Europe, whether the people wanted it or not. A very sizeable proportion don't want it: and that proportion is going to grow.

Of course we reject The Establishment: they betrayed the British people and they still are.

 

JacktheNat,/ 06 May 2014 8:15am

Don't the same three questions apply to other parties in our hallowed-out democracy when I read of family succession in Labour and Conservative seats?

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Tory MP Mark Reckless defects to Ukip

 

MP for Rochester and Strood makes announcement on stage at Ukip conference in Doncaster
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Mark Reckless, the Tory MP for Rochester and Strood, has become the second Conservative member to defect to Ukip in the space of two months.

The eurosceptic politician said he had not taken the decision lightly but claimed the Conservative leadership was “part of the problem that is holding our country back”.

The surprise announcement, which comes on the eve of the Conservative party conference in Birmingham, is a further blow to David Cameron eight months before the general election.Appearing on stage to a rapturous reception at the Ukip conference in Doncaster, he said voters felt “ripped off and lied to”, adding: “Today I am leaving the Conservative party and joining Ukip.”

 

Reckless said he had endured a number of sleepless nights over the decision, telling the conference he had been a Conservative “as long as I can remember”.

He added: “I do feel that the leadership of the Conservative party is part of the problem that is holding our country back.”

A Conservative spokesman said the decision by Reckless was “completely illogical”, adding: “He says he wants action on a European referendum, tax and immigration. The only party capable of delivering on these issues is the Conservative party - and a vote for Ukip is a vote for Ed Miliband.”​​

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> http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/27/tory-mp-mark-reckless-defects-ukip

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UKIP keeps gaining...

 

Miliband vows to ‘listen and deliver’ after narrow win over Ukip

 

Labour leader says he will tackle concerns over immigration as dissenting voices within party question electoral strategy

Ed Miliband declared his determination to “fight against disillusionment and despair” after Ukip came within a whisker of overturning Labour’s previously huge majority in the Heywood and Middleton byelection.

The Labour leader made an appearance in the Greater Manchester constituency to congratulate his party’s successful candidate, Liz McInnes, but refused to take questions about how the party almost lost a safe seat, or answer criticism from within his own ranks about his electoral strategy.

The most significant result of the night was Ukip gaining its first ever elected MP in Clacton, Essex, where defector Douglas Carswell overturned his own Conservative majority in a huge blow for David Cameron. However, the results in Heywood and Middleton where Ukip lost by just 617 votes was potentially a bigger shock to Labour, as the party has always argued Ukip is a greater threat to the Tories.

Speaking from the steps of Heywood library, Miliband said he understood why people voted for Ukip and promised to “listen and deliver” over their worries. He said Labour realised voters had “specific concerns” about immigration and reiterated Labour’s view that it was not prejudiced to worry about its effects.

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> http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/oct/10/miliband-listen-deliver-ukip-immigration-labour

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UK wins first MP. This is a historical moment in British politics.

 

Britain's anti-EU UK Independence Party won its first elected seat in parliament on Friday by a landslide and came a close second in another vote, proving it poses a threat to the country's two main parties in a national election next year.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/10/10/uk-britain-politics-idUKKCN0HX2H420141010

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Here's how people beat the programs chosen by TPTB:

 

Daily Mail - ‎36 minutes ago‎
David Cameron and Ed Miliband were ordered to get tough on immigration today - or lose even more support to Ukip following last night's shock by-election results.
Thanks, UKIP for listening to the people

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Here's how people beat the programs chosen by TPTB:

 

Angry MPs order Cameron and Miliband to get tough on immigration or lose ...

Daily Mail - ‎36 minutes ago‎

 

David Cameron and Ed Miliband were ordered to get tough on immigration today - or lose even more support to Ukip following last night's shock by-election results.

 

 

Thanks, UKIP for listening to the people

UKIP keep stabbing at the open wound that is immigration policy knowing full well that the UK government doesnt have full control over it and have to kowtow to the EU diktats.

 

Every time Farage kicks, he scores a goal.

 

He's a very talented politician, and I hope he shocks the parasites in Westminster further towards the path of integrity from which they've veered. However, a talented politician does not make a talented governor.

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His name is Douglas Carswell.

 

Despite a rigorous selection procedure, designed to exclude candidates of integrity with conservative political principles from standing in the Conservative interest, one sneaked through. His name is Douglas Carswell.

No doubt Conservative Campaign HQ are already conducting an internal inquiry as to how the modern Tory Party could possibly have selected such a man of integrity to represent it in Parliament.

Until fairly recently Doug Carswell genuinely believed in David Cameron’s bogus promise to hold a referendum. When he learnt – as he obviously did – that Cameron has agreed with Heywood to resign after the failure of the spoof EU reform negotiations, he did the honourable thing and resigned.

Having resigned he created a new political convention, now being talked about as the ‘Carswell Convention’, whereby an MP who crosses the floor should resign, unless a General Election is pending, and fight a by-election.

 

Doug Carswell’s brilliant victory in Clacton has changed the landscape. Like a DVD-triggered tsunami, UKIP is threatening to wash over the pro-EU parties, each of whose leaders sees keeping Britain in the German sphere of influence as more important that winning an election.

To have a political party with a charismatic leader willing to stand up for the British interest has come as a real shock to them. They tend to see politics as a zero-sum game, which in a country without Aussie-style compulsory voting, is absurd, not least when turnout is as low as 60%. Many of those who voted for Doug Carswell will not have voted at all in the last election, and given the unappetising, pro-EU policies of the then three main parties, who can blame them?

 

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Doug Carswell

The logic of a UKIP/Tory deal is now compelling. By waiting so long, the Tory Party has ensured that this will be a deal on UKIP terms, i.e. one which encompasses leaving the hated EU. That in turn means dumping David ‘von’ Cameron, our Brussels-loving leader. He’s going anyway, so what’s the point of keeping him?

If we go into the General Election as we are, with Cameron at the wheel — or rather, since we are a rudderless ship, sulking in his cabin — Labour will win, with a working majority.

That would mean another 5 years in the EU, at a minimum cost to UK Inc, in 2013 prices, of $3.5 trillion, with the prospect of at least another million EU migrants flooding across our undefended borders, taking away another million jobs from British workers.

Thousands of acres of Green Belt land would have to be built upon to accommodate them, and the Cabinet Office’s uglification program would continue unabated. It is a hateful prospect, which is bound to lead to social unrest, as an unpopular government rammed the EU down the throats of a resentful populace.

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> http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/10/11/a-bad-week-for-evil-dictators/

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Every time Farage kicks, he scores a goal.

Looks like he's going to be able to do it on prime time election t.v as a substitute for the lib dems. Just the once mind.

 

Wonder what the topic will be that night alongside DAVED? Wonder if they might try and blind side him with questions away from Europe

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