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Lynne Twist, a new money system, real education, government of the people

 

To: privacy@thrivemovement.com

 

Dear Foster, Kimberly and the THRIVE movement:

 

Your public image gave me an impression of two very fine people until you have announced Lynn Twist into the movement. You may not have a surreptitious agenda, perhaps you are just quite naïve. However, I cannot rule out all other possibilities, as the world we live in, is all about power and suppression. And, it can emanate even from lovely faces such as yours.

 

Power is unfortunately money, and in most countries, a money system has been forged by a few families who have the ability to create their wealth out of nothing and off the backs of the 99%. Money buys armies, soldiers for hire, brown shirts, and politicians, which leads to oppression and has led to the loss of personal power of the 99%. The money created by this private corporation, represents the labor of all humanity which they successfully hijacked in 1913. The idea that removing industrialism is going to eradicate the power mongers is simple ludicrous.

 

It is the money system which must be removed. The labor of each individual belongs ONLY to them. And every individual needs to earn their own way in this world, not be taken care of by a giant nursery school, by those who have deemed themselves to be superior using the money of the other 99%. The loss of control removes the right of self-determination for each and every person on this planet. Nor can we allow the perpetuation of the fraternities and sororities of the few, currently sequestering the money and power, by skimming a percentage from the 99%.

 

The idea that socialism will change the society for the better is laughable. I read. I understand history. I am 92 years old. All it will do is further consolidate the wealth and power in the hands of the same families. That is what it has always done. A fair and equitable money system needs to be advanced. Spend some time on that concept and you will arrive at the conclusion that a fair money system will create equality, something socialism never has done or ever will, as Lynn Twist would like you to believe. Lynn Twist is involved with all that is contained in the paragraphs below.

 

She is a highly paid and supported propagandist who is dedicated to ensuring that the secret plan be advanced with the intent to portray the belief that it will be heaven on earth. She is a known socialist and Marxist. These philosophies have led to the deaths of hundreds of millions throughout history. I served in WWII, and I saw what oppression, socialism, Marxism and Communism looks like first hand.

 

The continually erosion of personal power through the eradication of jobs, except those that serve to support and perpetuate the secret plan of total dominance and exclusion of a fair money system, has been the cause of the downward trend, leading the destiny of the people to the circular movement of the proverbial drain. The playing field has never been a level one. The educational system has become a school room of ridiculous, mind altering, socialistic propaganda, exemplified in our schools, aided and abetted by the media, movies, (pop-culture), and political behavior. There is no doubt what-so-ever that socialism has been supplanted within the fabric of our society. Search for the tenets of the “Communist Manifest” and you will be amazed to find that all 10 have already been ensconced. Life must offer the chance of personal growth, enhancing personal empowerment through freedom of choice!

 

The added combination of incessant manufacturing of the need to buy more material goods, in a continual path of a debt-society, and a dependence of goods from China, has been part of the secret plan going back to Richard Nixon, to decrease people’s independence through the dismantling of our burgeoning economy, empowering China’s manufacturing base, which was first enhanced by Roosevelt with his “Great Society,” and ultimately, the Federal Reserve and the ilk that created the control system for world domination. (The Federal Reserve controls the money systems in over 180 countries) The push for dependence vs. independence is one that the socialists have secretly advanced for generations through the many foundations which the Rockefeller family has instituted throughout the years. David Rockefeller personally thanked the press,(additional traitors to humankind) for not reporting on their secret plan. They, by no means, are the only culprits of secrecy, skimming, suppression and domination, but they are one of the main beneficiaries of the skimming. Always follow the money…

 

There are also technologies which have been suppressed by the same organizations of people of which Lynn Twist seems to be affiliated. Since we are all aware of this, why in the world would anyone want to even consider allowing these same folks to continue their quest, to create the illusion that they serve the greater good? B.S.! We could all have free energy, but that would cut into their skimming and suppressing and controlling of humanity. There are medical technologies that will heal mankind which they have kept hidden from the 99% as well. These socialist by their very actions have spoken volumes of their intent for mankind. The current administration has had the bully-pulpit available to him for 3 ½ years now. Has he opened the new technologies to the people? No. He gave his buddies at Solyndra billions and no solar advancement for the people transpired. No Tesla technologies have been made available either. Ask yourselves, isn’ this irrefutable proof of intent?

 

Furthermore, the contemporaneous president (now dictator) of the U.S. Corporation, sent his daughter on vacation to Mexico costing the oppressed, out of work, skimmed, taxed-to-death, legislated to the wall,(60 million illegal and unlawful laws and statues) 99%, 2.5 million dollars. He wrote an executive order claiming that everything belongs to the US Corporation, and moreover, signed a law, (NDAA) that even American citizens can be arrested for opposing his philosophies,(no free speech allowed) such as socialism, globalism, climate-change-malarkey, (another skimming tactic) and war as an economy, serving the 1% as the supreme suppression weapon of choice over the other humans on planet earth. If this is not enough, he wants to subject the people of America to a healthcare plan which is patently illegal on its face, and deleterious to the health and well-being of the people. And when asked in an interview if he will give up his own healthcare plan and use the plan he has had devised for the 99%, he would not even answer the question. Lately, it was reported that he told the Supreme Court NOT to find his healthcare plan unconstitutional! It is unequivocally clear. The people at the top do not intend for the 99% to have what they have.

 

The new enlightenment jargon has been invented as a disguised version of what we already are experiencing. The wolf is simply adjusting his costume because the sheople are on to the game-plan of act III. Hollywood and all other entrenched political, corporate, media, famous (infamous) personality types, are grabbing more and more for themselves, and implementing more methodologies to continue the smoke and mirror delusions of this utopian idea, while living in splendor as the other 99% struggle. You would have to be one of the ranks of those with frontal lobotomies to BELIEVE that their intent is to empower and sustain the 99%. The proof of intent is evident!! This time, no costumes will hide the facts. All past actions and present attempts are out in the open, so even a blind man can see who they are, and what the 1% intend. The emperor is naked Kimberly and Foster.

 

Lastly, there are no aliens. There are other entities who have been here for millennia, but they are not aliens. This is a fabrication in your movie. If you don’t know this, then do your due diligence. If you do know this, and all else which I laid out in the above message, well you are part of the problem for mankind, and this will soon spread far and wide be it true. I am hoping not.

 

If you are sincere about the betterment of mankind, let us all see the proof of your true intent! You have a forum now, so use it to implement ideas of independence and true knowledge for all. We live in a Republic, not a Democracy. The law of this country is the Constitution. The only money that is lawful is gold and silver. War can only be declared by the Congress. We have three separate branches of government. The UNITED STATES is a corporation and not the united States of America. The IRS is a Puerto Rican Trust. We have not authorized a dictatorship. What you earn from the sweat of your own brow belongs to YOU and no one else, otherwise, that is THEFT. And finally, the PEOPLE are the controllers of this country. The persons working within the government are subject to the will of the people! There is no shortage of food or other necessities. It is an artificially manufactured concept, perpetrated by the controllers, literally and figuratively. All of this is a consequence of the private Federal Reserve system which has sapped individual wealth through inflation and deflation, bankrupted countries with artificial debt, bought our government and the people in it, waged war for control, theft of resources and denies food and water to those they deem not worthy to live. And lastly, there are not too many people! All of humanity could have a 1 ¼ acre lot in Australia with room to spare, while the rest of the earth would be vacant of humans.

 

And by all means, disassociate yourselves from known persons aligned with the plan to take control away from the people, instead of showcasing them in conjunction with Thrive. We will be watching to see what you do……….

 

John

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Interesting:

 

Your public image gave me an impression of two very fine people until you have announced ...

 

lynne-twist.jpg : Lynn Twist into the movement

 

The idea that socialism will change the society for the better is laughable. I read. I understand history. I am 92 years old...

 

She is a highly paid and supported propagandist who is dedicated to ensuring that the secret plan be advanced with the intent to portray the belief that it will be heaven on earth. She is a known socialist and Marxist. These philosophies have led to the deaths of hundreds of millions throughout history. I served in WWII, and I saw what oppression, socialism, Marxism and Communism looks like first hand.

 

The added combination of incessant manufacturing of the need to buy more material goods, in a continual path of a debt-society, and a dependence of goods from China, has been part of the secret plan going back to Richard Nixon, to decrease people’s independence through the dismantling of our burgeoning economy, empowering China’s manufacturing base, which was first enhanced by Roosevelt with his “Great Society,” and ultimately, the Federal Reserve and the ilk that created the control system for world domination.

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It's a combination of Protocols of Zion # 13 and 18.

 

PoZ#13 is about guiding the masses to form the 'right' opinion

PoZ#18 is about setting up opposition to themselves - the 'controlled' opposition.

 

By their actions shall you know them.

It's like a lot of disinfo out there (eg the former white hat website).

They mix a lot of truths with a teensy-weensy deadly dose of lies to capture you.

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Surviving Progress - Full Film / from Martin Scorsese

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeEPfiaeRA0

 

Film about the risks we pose to our own survival in the name of progress; connecting financial collapse, growing inequality and global oligarchy with the sustainability of mankind.

 

1 hr 22 mins

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=indKo9DQvcw

 

ETHOS

Hosted by twice Oscar nominated actor and activist Woody Harrelson, Ethos lifts the lid on a Pandora's Box of systemic issues that guarantee failure in every aspect of our lives, from the environment to our democracy and our own personal liberty.From conflicts of interest in politics to unregulated corporate power, to a military industrial complex that just about owns our government. We cannot change our system until we know how it works and this film, with interviews from some of today's leading thinkers, will show you a simple but powerful way to start making meaningful and sustainable change. We can live in peace and justice in a clean environment and Ethos will show you how.

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THRIVE - Update from Kimberly Gamble

 

Dear Thrive Movement,

 

As the Producer, Director, and Co-Writer of THRIVE, I have had an opportunity to have a lot of interesting conversations since the movie's release 7 months ago! With over 4 million viewers in 18 languages, there have been a few recurring questions I thought

 

"Behind the Scenes Reflections on the Making of THRIVE"

 

I'd share with you in this video:

•Why did we choose to include ET's and eugenics knowing that they're such socially taboo subjects?

•Are we concerned that naming the individuals in the global banking elite families will perpetuate a destructive "us vs them" dynamic?

•How does it feel personally now to be such a controversial figure, as the co-creator of THRIVE?

 

Click here to hear my thoughts. Feel free to join in the discussion and ask any questions you'd like me to address, by commenting on this page.

 

Toward a thriving world,

 

Kimberly Carter Gamble

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(Foster sees "hope" in Investment accounts)

 

Taxpayers strike it rich? - Foster Gamble

 

 

As cities and states struggle to balance their budgets, folks everywhere are losing their jobs, parks are closing and people most in need are getting left in the dust. As Foster describes in this video blog, it doesn't have to be this way. Trillions of dollars of taxpayer money is currently sitting in unpublicized government investment funds and people are organizing to get it back.

 

Foster Gamble's Blog: http://www.thrivemovement.com/foster_gamble_blog

Watch THRIVE: http://www.thrivemovement.com/the_movie

 

Personally, I really wonder how real these so-called "investment accounts" are

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(This REBUTTAL belongs here too-

since some may not know about the formal "disassociations"):

 

Humanity and Sanity: Standing for a Thriving World

 

(and challenging the Movie Thrive)

 

By John Robbins

 

Thrive is the name of a richly produced and controversial film that asks, and attempts to answer, some of the deepest questions about the nature of the human condition and what is thwarting our chances to prosper. Elaborately funded, with appealing imagery and beautiful music, it features interviews with many leading progressive voices. And yet ten of these leaders have taken the highly unusual step of signing a statement formally disassociating ourselves from the film.

 

Why have Amy Goodman, Deepak Chopra, Paul Hawken, Edgar Mitchell, Vandana Shiva, John Perkins, Elisabet Sahtouris, Duane Elgin and Adam Trombly, as well as yours truly, gone to the trouble of signing our names to this public statement?

 

“We are a group of people who were interviewed for and appear in the movie Thrive, and who hereby publicly disassociate ourselves from the film.

 

Thrive is a very different film from what we were led to expect when we agreed to be interviewed. We are dismayed that we were not given a chance to know its content until the time of its public release. We are equally dismayed that our participation is being used to give credibility to ideas and agendas that we see as dangerously misguided.

 

We stand by what each of us said when we were interviewed. But we have grave disagreements with some of the film’s content and feel the need to make this public statement to avoid the appearance that our presence in the film constitutes any kind of endorsement.”

 

I have joined the other signers of this statement, even though there are aspects of the film that I find inspiring, and even though the makers of the film, Foster and Kimberly Gamble, are old friends.

 

In Thrive, the Gambles have attempted to address some of the crucial challenges of our times. I appreciate their idealism, their commitment, and their passion. And I agree with them about some things they state in the movie and on their website — such as that the political system is depraved, the Federal Reserve has been used to consolidate economic power, fiat currency tends to produce a corrupt financial system that depends on ever increasing debt, the tax system is unfair, and enormously powerful economic interests often collude with one another to deceive and defraud the public. I stand with them as they promote the labeling of genetically engineered foods and in their desire to see our nation cease spending enormous sums on war. I appreciate that they support local and organic agriculture, their passion for credit unions and local banking, and their opposition to governmental invasion of privacy. They recommend many action steps that I support.

 

But I do not agree with some of the core conclusions they draw. Nor do the other signers of the statement of disassociation from Thrive. Duane Elgin, one of the signers, says: “Thrive is idealistic, naive, narrow, shallow, and focuses attention away from more productive areas of engagement.”

 

At the very heart of the Thrive message is what it calls the Global Domination Agenda. Foster Gamble explains:

 

“A small group of families are actually controlling virtually every sector of human endeavor… Their agenda… (is) to take over the lives of all people across the entire planet… to collapse the economies throughout the European Union… to devalue the dollar to almost zero… and to create a one-world government, with them in charge.”

 

The Thrive movie and website also state that this “small group of families” are developing and experimenting with plans to radically reduce the world’s human population to make us “easier to manage.”

 

Could this be true?

 

There is no doubt that staggering wealth and power is today concentrated in the hands of a tiny minority of humanity. The combined net worth of the world’s richest thousand or so people — the planet’s billionaires — is almost twice that of the poorest 2.5 billion. I believe this disparity to be nothing less than an indictment of our civilization.

 

It is also certain that networks exist among the most powerful that enable a remarkably few people to shape the world’s economy, to determine what is known and what is not, which views are accepted and which are not, and what priorities and policies will prevail. More than most of us realize, they decide whether we will live in war or peace and how our treasure will be spent. And they have proven to be eminently successful at enriching themselves, often at the expense of the common good. Exposing the global power elite is tremendously important work. And this, Thrive purports to do.

 

But the Thrive movie and website are filled with dark and unsubstantiated assertions about secret and profoundly malevolent conspiracies that distract us from the real work at hand. The conspiracy theories at the heart of Thrive are based on an ultimate division between “us” and “them.” ”We” are many and well-meaning but victimized. “They,” on the other hand, are a tiny, greedy and inconceivably powerful few who are masterfully organized, who are purposefully causing massive disasters in order to cull the population, and who are deliberately destroying the world economy in order to achieve total world domination.

 

This way of thinking has an allure, for it distracts and absolves us from the troubling truth that the real source of the problem is in all of us, and in the economic systems we have collectively produced. If the ills of the world are the deliberate intentions of malevolent beings, then we don’t have to take responsibility for our problems because they are being done to us. Thinking this way may provide the momentary comfort of feeling exonerated, but it is ultimately disempowering, because it undermines our desire to be accountable for the way our own thoughts and actions help to create the environmental degradation and vast social inequity of the world in which we live. As Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn wrote, “The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either, but right through every human heart.”

 

The Thrive movie has lavish production values, and presents interviews with many leaders in the consciousness movement, all of which lend a beguiling aura of credibility. Foster Gamble himself comes across as soft, warm, and inquiring. Those who have only seen the film may not recognize the agenda and belief system that actually underlie Thrive.

 

For example, Foster Gamble says that the Japanese earthquake that caused the tsunami that wreaked havoc on the nuclear plants inFukushimawas deliberately created by those seeking absolute world domination, in order to punish the Japanese for not acceding to their wishes. He explains that “they” are able to use an electromagnetic array project inAlaskacalled HAARP to create earthquakes and tsunamis at will, anywhere on earth. The catastrophic earthquakes that devastated Haiti and Chile in 2010, he says, were intentionally created via HAARP. According to this view, these earthquakes were not the result of tectonic stresses and geologic processes. They were intentional acts perpetrated by a ruling elite with unimaginably sinister intent.

 

I’m tempted to think that Foster Gamble has watched too many James Bond movies. But the level of diabolical malevolence in the Thrive worldview makes the villains in James Bond movies seem like Mother Teresa in comparison.

 

There are many things that are terribly wrong in our world, and some of them are dire. All living creatures are poisoned and compromised by surging levels of human-made toxins that spew into our environment, relatively unchecked. We are experiencing unprecedented levels of heart disease, cancer, obesity and childhood diabetes. Our financial institutions and to a large extent our political system have been hijacked by greedy and at times even sociopathic individuals who seem to feel no sense of responsibility to the well being of the whole. The world’s military industrial complex is spending more money than ever on guns, bombs, and the machinery of unfathomable destructive power, while governments learn little about how to make peace and hundreds of millions of people go hungry.

 

But holding these tragedies as the deliberate acts of a tiny group of families seeking total world domination via a global police state distracts us from the arduous work of confronting the true challenges before us.

 

For example, as an environmentalist I heed the monumental evidence that global warming may be one of the most serious threats faced by humanity and many of the other species on this planet. Those who have merely seen the movie might not know that Foster Gamble and the Thrive website strongly recommend a film (The Great Global Warming Swindle) which states that man-made global warming is a “lie” and “the biggest scam of modern times.”

 

The Thrive website opens its climate change discussion with this question:

 

“How does the premise of man-made global warming relate to the banking elite’s effort to transcend national sovereignty, establish global governance and create a global tax to fund their dominance?”

 

The insinuation is that the idea of human-caused global warming is being fabricated as an excuse to create a global police state and a tax basis for tyranny. If this is true, just about every scientific expert in the world has been taken in by the hoax. A 2010 study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences found that 97 percent of scientific experts agree that it is…

 

“very likely that anthropogenic (human-caused) greenhouse gases have been responsible for the unequivocal warming of most of the Earth’s global temperature in the second half of the 20th century.”

 

It has been personally painful for me to witness friends of mine become caught up in seeing just about everything on earth as part of a vast demonic conspiracy. When I wrote Foster Gamble to voice my disappointment with many of the ideas in the film and website, he wrote back, encouraging me among other things to study the works of David Icke, Eustace Mullins, Stanley Monteith and G. Edward Griffin. These are among the people he repeatedly refers to in the movie as his “sources.” It is in these people’s worldviews that Thrive has its roots.

 

I find this deeply disturbing. Here’s why…

 

David Icke is a major player in Thrive. In fact, he is featured more prominently in the movie than anyone other than Foster Gamble. An extended interview with him, intercut with supporting material, forms much of the middle section of the film.

 

Though this is not mentioned in Thrive, Icke is well-known for advocating utterly bizarre theories, including that the entire world is run by a secret group of reptilian humanoids who drink human blood and conduct satanic rituals. Forty-threeU.S. Presidents, he says, have been such reptilian beings, and many of them have been part of global satanic pedophile rings that murder hundreds of thousands of children a year. I wish I was making this despicable stuff up, but I’m not. This is what Icke teaches.

 

What is Thrive’s relationship to these beliefs? Foster Gamble explains:

 

“In our film, we do not go into his (Icke’s) research on reptilians, nor his immensely important investigations into global satanic pedophile rings, because it does not serve our film. That does not mean that revealing what is happening to hundreds of thousands of our most vulnerable every year should not be exposed and stopped.”

 

Icke’s war on common sense goes even further. He says that the Global Elite’s plan for world domination was laid bare in a document titled The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. This document is actually a notorious hoax, published inRussia around 1903. It supposedly presents a plan by the Jewish people to take over the world, and was a primary justification used by Adolph Hitler as he initiated the Holocaust. This fraudulent document was also used to justify the violent pogroms and massacres of the Jewish people in pre-SovietRussia.

 

How anyone could take seriously a man who espouses such “information” is beyond me. Thrive not only takes Icke seriously, but relies more heavily on his “insights” than on any other source, both in the movie and as a source of “data” for its website.

 

In a recent interview, Icke seemed to be competing for lunatic of the year: “What I’m explaining now,” he said, “is that the moon is not a heavenly body but a construct.”

 

One of the signers of the statement of disassociation from Thrive, former astronaut Edgar Mitchell, has grounds to disagree. As the lunar module pilot of Apollo 14, he spent nine hours working on the moon’s surface.

 

Another of Thrive’s primary sources, and another of the authors Foster Gamble told me I should read in order to better understand Thrive, is Eustace Mullins. I honestly find it difficult to convey the level of anti-semitism in Mullins’s books, without it seeming that I am exaggerating. So I will let Mullins’s own words speak for themselves:

 

“We must remember that there is no Jewish crime per se, since the existence of the Jewish parasite on the host is a crime against nature, because its existence imperils the health and life of the host…

 

This religious ceremony of drinking the blood of an innocent gentile child is basic to the Jew’s entire concept of his existence as a parasite, living off the blood of the host…

 

The Jews do not want anyone to know what Nazism is. Nazism is simply this–a proposal that the German people rid themselves of the parasitic Jews. The gentile host dared to protest against the continued presence of the parasite, and attempted to throw it off.”

 

The title of one of Eustace Mullins’s books is: Hitler, An Appreciation. While Foster Gamble evidently believes that Mullins has shed valuable light on banking systems and other aspects of the “Global Domination Agenda,” I have no interest in looking to such individuals for insight into anything.

 

The Gambles state that they do not necessarily agree with all of the thoughts and beliefs of their sources, but rather that they have incorporated only those ideas they find useful and with which they agree. I’m sure the Gambles do not condone Mullins’ overt anti-semitism, but I find it disturbing that the thinking of these men has been used as the foundation for some of the key ideas presented in Thrive. While I do not believe the Gambles are themselves guilty of anti-semitism, I do believe they are naïve and gullible, and that in depending heavily on sources such as Icke and Mullins they have unwittingly allowed anti-semitism to become a subtext in their work.

 

As journalist Eric Johnson points out, viewers of the movie may not realize that Gamble’s central thesis, that a handful of families, many of them Jewish, control the world and plan to enslave humanity, is nearly identical to the argument that Joseph Goebbels made in his notorious Nazi propaganda filmThe Eternal Jew: that a handful of banking families, many of them Jewish, run the world and seek global domination.

 

Two of the other sources that Foster Gamble recommended to me so that I might better understand the philosophical underpinnings of Thrive are Stanley Monteith and G. Edward Griffin. Monteith, who happens to be a neighbor of mine, has long been involved with Pat Robertson’s Christian Coalition, and professes that the environmental movement is a pretext for the effort to create a global police state. The author of two books on AIDS, he says “the vast majority of AIDS information available to the American public has only one purpose – and that purpose is to deceive the people of our nation.” Monteith’s answer? He calls for schools to “abandon all comprehensive sex education” in favor of “abstinence only sex instruction.”

 

G. Edward Griffin is showcased in both the Thrive movie and website. Both he and Monteith have long been members and officers of the John Birch Society, a far-right political organization that first came to public attention when one of its founders, Robert W. Welch, proclaimed that Dwight Eisenhower wasn’t the genial war hero and popular President he seemed, but rather “a conscious, dedicated agent of the international communist conspiracy.” G. Edward Griffin has written an admiring biography of Welch, who co-founded the John Birch Society along with Fred Koch, the father of today’s notorious Koch Brothers.

 

Both Thrive and the John Birch Society view government, in Welch’s words, “as always and inevitably an enemy of individual freedom.” And both see a small group of families, including the Rockefellers and Rothschilds, as behind an utterly malevolent conspiracy seeking total global domination. The Thrive website features this statement from the second president of the John Birch Society, Larry McDonald:

 

“The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government…all under their control… Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in cope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent.”

 

There are only a few of the ultra-right wing sources whose ideas and agendas pervade Thrive. Another is the economist Ludwig von Mises, whose words and beliefs are cited frequently and sympathetically on theThrive website. Many Americans first learned of von Mises when Michele Bachman, seeking the Republican nomination for the Presidency, said she read his books at the beach. Von Mises’s brand of laissez-faire capitalism is hard-core. In his eyes, nearly all government intervention in the economy is strictly verboten, and taxes are a crime against freedom.

 

Buoyed by lush visual effects and lovely words, the Thrive film has been attractive to many who know how often we are deceived and exploited by the powers that shouldn’t be. “In times of universal deceit,” wrote George Orwell, “telling the truth will be a revolutionary act.”

 

But what is the revolution Thrive would bring? Both the Thrive movie and website call for the end of taxation even for the rich. Thrive’s goal is a world in which public schools and welfare programs, including social security, have been terminated. Instead of police, we have private security forces. As Foster Gamble puts it, “Private security works way better than the state.”

 

That may be true for the rich who can pay for it. But who, I might ask, would pay to protect low-income communities if all security was privatized?

 

Eventually, if Foster Gamble had his way and the Thrive vision was fully manifest, there would be no taxes, no government, and everything would be privately owned, including roads. “It’s clear that when you drive into a shopping center you are on a private road, and almost without exception it is in great shape,” explains the Thrive website, as though a free market unfettered by concern for the 99 percent would somehow magically meet the needs of all.

 

I am saddened to see Foster Gamble, an heir to the Procter & Gamble fortune, so oblivious to the realities of those who do not share his privileges. If all roads are privatized, how will the poor get anywhere?

 

It is hard to overstate how opposed Thrive is to taxes, even on the ultra-wealthy. To Foster Gamble’s eyes, any form of government that depends on taxation, including democracy, is unconscionable. He writes on theThrive website:

 

“Democracy…which is born of and sustains itself by taking people’s hard-earned money, whether they like it or not, and calling it ‘taxation,’ – is in and of itself a violation [against life].”

 

No wonder Amy Goodman, who appears in the film, is one of the signers of the statement repudiating Thrive. She has long been the host of what may be the most significant progressive news institution of our time. WhileThrive finds democracy abhorrent because it depends on taxation, her outstanding program is called Democracy Now.

 

How, you might be asking, did those of us who have signed the statement of disassociation from Thrive ever allow ourselves to be filmed for a movie that advances such ideas? The answer is simple. We were grievously misled about what the film would be.

 

I want to underscore that although I think the Gambles are promoting a destructive agenda (which they kept secret from those of who were interviewed for their film), I do not think either Foster or his wife Kimberly are sinister or malicious, which is why it has been a very painful process for me to write this critique. I have known them to be kind people who mean well, and I have long considered Kimberly in particular to be one of my closest friends. But I have found it necessary to speak out in this way, because some of the ideas at the heart of Thrive strike me as frightening and misguided, and they most certainly are not ones with which I or the other signers of the disassociation statement can condone.

 

I have spent decades exposing and seeking to undermine powerful industries whose ways of doing business are diametrically opposed to the public welfare. In my view, the deregulation of the economy and the demolition of government programs that Thrive proposes, would take us even further in the direction of a winner-take-all economy in which wealth would concentrate even more in the hands of the financial elites.

 

As one of the signers of the disassociation statement, evolutionary biologist Elisabet Sahtouris, writes:

 

“Without community, we do not exist, and community is about creating relationships of mutual benefit. It does not just happen with flowers and rainbows, and no taxes.”

 

Each of us who have signed the statement have dedicated our lives to creating and conveying positive visions of how to create a truly thriving, just and sustainable way of life. We have been part of vast movements toward generating a human presence on this planet that is spiritually fulfilling, socially just, and environmentally responsible. We do not want to see our names, reputations, and influence used to fuel unsubstantiated claims or misguided policies. We want to see them used to strengthen individuals and communities, and to serve the ability each of us possesses to live with respect for ourselves, for one another, and for the truth of our interdependence.

 

As another of the signers, Paul Hawken, writes:

 

“The world is riven by people who are convinced they are right, while others are wrong. Dualism permeates political, economic, cultural and religious conflict. It is the true source of suffering and the despoliation of the world. This wound cannot be healed by the us/them divisions that inform Thrive. Evil most certainly exists, but the core of evil is ignorance, and it cannot be repelled by righteousness or by making others wrong. It is only through compassion that we can create true transformation.”

 

We do not deny the evil in the world. It is here and it is real. But there is also hope here, and it too is real.

 

It is hope that believes we can build trust, build community, and build a better world. Such hope is not the blind belief in something which has little possibility of ever materializing. It is the hope which remains open to miracles while investing the sweat and perseverance to lend the Universe a hand in creating those miracles. It is the hope that is borne from knowing that it is far too late, and our situation far too serious, to indulge in the luxuries of pessimism, paranoia, and finger-pointing.

 

The state of the world is perilous. But it is not too late to love, not too late to work to realize our dreams, and not too late to believe in ourselves and each other.

 

In the end, we are all in this together. Each step you take to lessen the amount of fear in yourself and the world brings us closer to a world reflective of the beauty that exists — sometimes buried and other times apparent — in each of us. Every act you take that increases the amount of trust and compassion in your relationships helps us move from a world created by privilege to a world created by community.

 

As the poet Adrienne Rich wrote, “So much has been destroyed. I have cast my lot with those who, age after age, perversely, with no extraordinary power, reconstitute the world.”

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Humanity and Sanity: Standing for a Thriving World

 

(and challenging the Movie Thrive) By John Robbins

 

Why have Amy Goodman, Deepak Chopra, Paul Hawken, Edgar Mitchell, Vandana Shiva, John Perkins, Elisabet Sahtouris, Duane Elgin and Adam Trombly, as well as yours truly, gone to the trouble of signing our names to this public statement?

 

“We are a group of people who were interviewed for and appear in the movie Thrive, and who hereby publicly disassociate ourselves from the film.

 

Thrive is a very different film from what we were led to expect when we agreed to be interviewed.

. . .

We stand by what each of us said when we were interviewed. But we have grave disagreements with some of the film’s content and feel the need to make this public statement to avoid the appearance that our presence in the film constitutes any kind of endorsement.”

 

-- ETC

 

Since I have recommended that people watch the Thrive Film,

I thought I should post one response that was made to the long "Rebuttal" :

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I don't buy all of Foster's arguments, and he has been attacked from nearly all sides for his film. But that is inevitable, because he has put together a Big Picture which paints a picture of a conspiracy by Rich and Powerful families - of which his own family is one. If he personally is benign and idealistic, as most everyone seem agree, then it is possible - no likely ! - that there will be benign and positive people in those family groups that his film demonises. All members of those families are not all locked into a gigantic conspiracy. So that is a basic inherent problem with his theory.

 

Nevertheless, to me there remains some convincing evidence that are secret groups may be manipulating society, or at least have outsized power within the economy. For years, it has been very hard to talk about this, without being thought crazy, or being attacked by those with possible vested interests.

 

Foster Gamble's Thrive film has allowed these discussions of a possible conspiracy to be brought out into the open, and discussed by people who would previously avoid this topic.

 

As an example:

 

We all know there is a group called the Masons. I have been told that all the astronauts who went to the Moon were 33rd degree Masons. One of the main things that allows one to reach that exalted level is the "ability to keep a secret." What did the astronauts learn on the Moon, or before they even went there? Why have we not gone back to the Moon? To me, these are very interesting questions - And represent one of the dozens of interesting topics that could arise from a viewing of the film.

 

The power of the Fed, and how it effects our economy is another. And I could think of 10 more good topics, including whether or not there is an ET presence on our planet.

 

 

I applaude Gamble, for taking the Risk to make a film like Thrive.

It is unfortunate that people want to disassociate themselves from his film. But it is not surprising either. The people who signed the petition have far too much too lose if they embrace the big conspiracy theory at the heart of the film.

 

+ If the Cabal exists, then they are identified as enemies of a dangerous power.

 

+ If the Cabal does not exist, or it has a different agenda than Foster Gamble laid out, then they are seen as gullible, or naive "conspiracy theorists"

 

Fortunately, by watching the film, and discussing it with a few friends, I take on much less risk than those who appeared in it. I can explore and research the possible existence of an elite, without putting my job or my livelihood at risk. And I can pursue further investigations into those parts of the film that interest me (free energy, the power of the Fed, the in-built problems of the US healthcare system, or the possible prresence of ETs and/or UFOs) without having to sign up as a true believer, supporting "the whole theory."

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(I have received these comments on the Thrive Film - via email):

 

I’ve watched thrive. I don’t buy most of the arguments but I like the ending.

 

As you know i prefer a cock up rather than a conspiracy view of history. That being said i fully accept there are many bad people, those who’ve sought undue influence and power and achieved it. But this film is too much of a stretch. I can agree that wealth has become too concentrated in many parts of the world. What I most like is the call for a greater development of the inner life. Deepak Chopra is good in this respect even if too populist.

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In some ways, the Free Energy possibility is one of the most exciting possibilities, that could greatly improve life on this planet. I want to watch that too, and this recent interview with Foster Gamble, maker of the Thrive film, suggests that an important breakthrough may have been made recently:

 

10/18/2012 Thursday - Foster Gamble / http://www.thrivemovement.com

MP3 : http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/archive/Vinny-Eastwood-32k-101812.mp3

Not an interview, but a conversation between Vinny and Foster, exploring the areas we feel are most important for people to understand. Love and Fear, Libertarian and authoritarian, collaboration and competition, Creativity and Destruction...

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As a Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECxkZs08PTw

But towards the end (at 1;14) Foster reveals....

 

A Midwestern inventor has made a breakthrough in creating a Free Energy device (a magnetic motor) which started with an older device, with a few hundred dollars worth of additions. He ran his house on it for several months, and put a video up on YouTube. What happened? Home Land security arrested him, and threatened him, saying: "You need to stop what you are doing, you are messing with the free flow of the economy." Foster is helping in getting him legal help.

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From the Thrive Movements "Free Energy" Thread

 

WHY DO THESE MACHINES WORK ? DO THEY BREAK IMMUTABLE LAWS ?

 

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But isn’t a perpetual motion machine impossible?

 

Of course no machine runs forever, because it is made of matter and all matter wears down. The key is that it is the source of power that is virtually endless.

 

But isn’t it true that nothing can violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics which says that in a closed system the organization of energy naturally runs down, so you can’t get more energy out of a system than it takes to run it.

 

2nd Law of Thermodynamics

“Over time, differences in temperature, pressure, and chemical potential equilibrate [all balance out] in an isolated physical system. From the state of thermodynamic equilibrium, the law deduced the principle of the increase of entropy ... The second law declares the impossibility of machines that generate usable energy from the abundant internal energy of nature by processes called perpetual motion of the second kind.” -
Wikipedia

 

The second key is that a torus is not a closed or isolated system. It is open to the rest of the universe, as are galaxies, solar systems and the atoms that provide the electricity in our very own bodies. None of these are plugged into a wall socket. They all run off the infinite torque of the universe that is turning every system in existence. So what if there were devices that could tap that?

 

Most so-called “New Energy” devices, in my experience, either tap the innate energy of (toroidal) magnetic fields or they access the virtually unrecognized “longitudinal wave” at the center of an electro-magnetic vortex rather than the more commonly known “transverse” wave that is coiling around it. Others mimic cosmic vortices with copper coils that create toroidal fields. Rotating these fields at certain octave frequencies seems to tap into the ambient energy of the space around the coils. Harmonic resonance rather than combustion unlocks the power.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCBcho4Pu3A

 

Breakthrough Energy Event

 

www.globalbem.com/

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Toward the end of the interview, Foster reveals:

A Midwestern inventor has made a breakthrough in creating a Free Energy device (a magnetic motor) which started with an older device, with a few hundred dollars worth of additions. He ran his house on it for several months, and put a video up on YouTube. What happened? Home Land security arrested him, and threatened him, saying: "You need to stop what you are doing, you are messing with the free flow of the economy." Foster is helping in getting him legal help.

 

Could THIS be the "older device" the he perfected ?

 

This short Informercial about the Stirling Engine is a good story

 

http://www.mysecretg...s.com/stirling/

 

Could it be Fact, rather than Fiction ?

 

Here's a theoretical model:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvKbPEuMRy4

 

Here's a real one in action:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3khFv5UwTd0

 

Not really "free" energy, since a flame is used to create a heat difference

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Lilou Mace does a Two Part interview with Foster Gamble

 

pt-1

 

pt-2

 

"People have responded to the coherence, which makes more sense that what they are getting from the Mainstream Media."

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