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Steve Pieczenik: World War III starts 25 September 2012

 

by Jim Fetzer

 

Dr. Steve Pieczenik, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State in three administrations, who earned his Ph.D. at MIT, has revealed that he has been told by a high-ranking general–whom I believe to have been Gen. Richard Myers–that 9/11 was a “false flag” attack, which was done by the government in order to arouse the American people to support wars of aggression in Afghanistan and Iraq. On Alex Jones, he has now asserted that Israel is going to attack Iran on Yom Kippur, which begins on Tuesday, 25 September 2011. He insists that Barack Obama and Benjamin Netanyahu are at odds over this, where Obama and the Pentagon are opposed to any such attack. I think Pieczenik is very honest and has run risks by revealing that he was told it had been a “false flag” operation to induce the public to support wars of aggression in Afghanistan and Iraq.

 

I wish that I could believe that the US “won’t be drawn into another unpopular war”. Given the coming presidential elections, however, where a new war in the Middle East would be overwhelmingly unpopular with the American public, Obama needs plausible deniability, which means that it must appear to the public as though this engagement was initiated by Iran, where the most likely scenario has an Israeli sub torpedo the USS Enterprise, our first nuclear-powered carrier, and blame it on Iran. This would not be the first example of monumental hypocisy by Obama.

 

/more: http://www.veteranst...september-2012/

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Is the fringe section taking over the main boards again?

 

Touch and go whether World War III breaks out before the end of the month, or little green men finally reveal themselves in our midst before then.

 

It would be quite helpful to separate this sort of stuff from the financial discussions, I think?

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"Is the fringe section taking over the main boards again?" - PJohnP

 

The world is changing, PJP. Can't you feel it too?

 

Some odd stories are going to surface very soon into the mainstream, I reckon.

 

They are moving off the Fringe, possibly within the next week.

If nothing happens by the time I am getting ready to leave for HK on the 26th, I will bury these odd threads.

 

Help me monitor them, since I think we are in a critical few days for some shocking news.

If it is not these items, it may be something else (Quakes? Volcanos?)

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velly intellesting

 

I agree Dr B, it feels strange lately and my spidey senses are on alert. Hope it all comes to nothing. Perhaps it is just the lunar eclipse or whatever on the 29th that is a bit weird.

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"Is the fringe section taking over the main boards again?" - PJohnP

 

The world is changing, PJP. Can't you feel it too?

 

Some odd stories are going to surface very soon into the mainstream, I reckon.

 

They are moving off the Fringe, possibly within the next week.

If nothing happens by the time I am getting ready to leave for HK on the 26th, I will bury these odd threads.

 

Help me monitor them, since I think we are in a critical few days for some shocking news.

If it is not these items, it may be something else (Quakes? Volcanos?)

 

There dose seem to be a lot of trouble In the world at the moment. Doted about In all sorts of places little bits of mounting trouble. Then there's all the big stuff. Trouble In the Western Banking system. the whole Euro thing. Mounting Government debt In the west. Mounting personal debt In the west.

The nearing of peak oil. All the staving people In the world.

There's lots going on. A Lot more that Iv said about above. All it would take is a small spark. And the whole lot could go up. Just the same as the start of the first world war.

 

I'm willing to read,look at the videos and study the news to help me protect my family.

 

I don't believe everything I read and see. Some of it is just good to pass the time.

 

But some off the stuff I do take note of.

You never know when that black swan will hit and send us into a living hell.

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velly intellesting

 

I agree Dr B, it feels strange lately and my spidey senses are on alert. Hope it all comes to nothing. Perhaps it is just the lunar eclipse or whatever on the 29th that is a bit weird.

We are not the only one's concerned

 

Here's AJ interviewing an insider, Dr Steve Pieczenik :

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1TdMBbS02k

 

"No need for Israel, other than it has 'covered us' on the Russian flank"

 

Let that sink in, then listen to the rest of this revealing interview.

 

He is worried about people like Wolfowitz "hiding behind Mitt Romney".

Romney is "being run" by Wolfowitz and Richard Pearl

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Well war does have a big impact on the markets so you can't really ignore political developments and say that's nothing to do with money. After all, for a certain corporations, war is a very big money spinner

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The world is changing, PJP. Can't you feel it too?

 

I think that there's a sort of chronological fallacy at work here, whereby every generation thinks that its own time is uniquely important ... whereas on the longer view most times are commonplace and only a few periods in every thousand years (if that) are world-changingly significant.

 

Are we living through such a time now? I think that we may be, economically (the collapse of the fiat-money experiment?) ... but I don't give any credence to this New World Order stuff, nor visiting (let alone resident!) aliens. For the former, my own knowledge of, and occasional conversations with, Very Important People, confirms my impression that on the whole things just happen ... and that they, as much as we, are just running after events and trying to respond to them (they really aren't that powerful, organized & secretive, nor remotely capable of being so); and for the latter I regard aliens as a contemporary form of witch, or demon, hysteria: four hundred years ago everyone from the king downwards knew that such things were real, and eye-witness accounts abounded ... and yet still they were wrong.

 

I deal professionally every day with the realm of believing in things that can't be proved ... and, trust me, there's a big difference between intelligent faith on the one hand and credulity on the other.

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Are we living through such a time now? I think that we may be, economically (the collapse of the fiat-money experiment?) ... but I don't give any credence to this New World Order stuff, nor visiting (let alone resident!) aliens. For the former, my own knowledge of, and occasional conversations with, Very Important People, confirms my impression that on the whole things just happen ... and that they, as much as we, are just running after events and trying to respond to them...

 

I have a different experience.

 

I agree that they (TPTB) are not uniquely competent, but I have seen up-close on at least one occasion that

powerful people (let's call them Top Bankers) are involved in matters that you would not expect them to be,

that are "way beyond their pay grades", if the world worked as you read about in the mainstream press.

 

If I have time, I might send you a PM about this matter within a day or two

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I have a different experience.

 

I agree that they (TPTB) are not uniquely competent, but I have seen up-close on at least one occasion that

powerful people (let's call them Top Bankers) are involved in matters that you would not expect them to be,

that are "way beyond their pay grades",

 

Can you actually get any higher than a top bankers pay grade? :rolleyes:

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Can you actually get any higher than a top bankers pay grade? :rolleyes:

Sorry, I stated that poorly (using a military expression)

 

Instead, I should have said: They were involved in things that had nothing to do with banking

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Heck, I used to work in a major accountancy firm.

It was not uncommon to have tax partners who knew virtually nothing about tax; having been recruited from the audit side.

They survived by relying on competent senior managers (who would resent working for pillocks)

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They desperately need WW3 because :

A huge Middle East war, no matter how destructive, would maintain the wartime State of Emergency in the US and impede the inexorable revelation of America’s biggest state secret: That American traitors, including Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, George W. Bush, Richard Myers, and others, helped Israel blow up the World Trade Center, bomb the Pentagon, and kill 3000 Americans on 9/11.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/22/israel-seeks-war-on-iran-to-keep-lid-on-911/

 

They can't keep a lid on this for much longer.

Each day they don't get their war is a day nearer to their exposure.

There's a lot of people gunning for them from many directions.

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They desperately need WW3 because :

 

http://www.veteranst...eep-lid-on-911/

They can't keep a lid on this for much longer.

Each day they don't get their war is a day nearer to their exposure.

There's a lot of people gunning for them from many directions.

 

Wow!

VT is getting increasingly bold.

I hope Gordon has someone "watching his backside."

 

The interesting thing is how the word is getting out in so many places.

I wonder how much time the 9/11 villains have before the public comes after then with pitchforks ?*

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq1KeyEARBU

...In a climactic pursuit scene, Frankenstein joins a large search party of peasants commissioned by the burgomaster to take up glowing torches, pitchforks...

 

Maybe if we all concentrate hard enough... we can beam this image into the brains of "the bad guys",

and they will start to get a taste of the fear they have tried to instill in the rest of us

=== ===

 

*For a long time, people have asked "Where is the rage" - Now maybe we will see it.

 

Where is the rage?

 

You can not believe one word that comes out of the White house. The Press Secretary is a lieing twit. Our Justice Department would allow a man's arms to be torn off and his eyes plucked out if the President desired it. Three thousand eight hundred and ninety five of our troops have died in Iraq and we still do not know why that war was started.

 

Graft and corruption.

 

Mercenaries.

 

The open destruction of evidence of their crimes and the erection of legal walls that will cover up their crimes for decades if not forever. A packed Court.

 

Dear sweet jesus. What will it take to end this madness?

/see: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2501375

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Get yer pitchfork out !

 

1)

"What Didn't Hit the Pentagon" with Dave vonKleist, Barbara Honegger and April Gallop.

Dave vonKleist examines mainstream media coverage of the attack on the Pentagon; Pentagon survivor April Gallop describes her experiences on September 11th, 2001, her first day back at work after maternity leave, as an administrative specialist with the U.S. Army at the Pentagon; and Barbara Honegger, senior military affairs journalist and former White House policy analyst, discusses her article, "The Pentagon Attack Papers". (Encore presentation.)

 

http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/84219

 

2)

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Israelis walk out in disgust as Ahmadinejad taunts them by flashing a peace sign at UN in New York... and warns Iran will defend itself against 'threats of Zionists'

  • President said he doesn't take seriously Israel's threat to strike Iran's nuclear sites as he attended UN General Assembly in New York
  • Ahmadinejad said it was not too late for Iran and U.S. to resolve differences
  • Israeli delegates walked out of conference as Iranian leader spoke
  • Denied that Iran was providing arms to Assad's regime in Syria

By LOUISE BOYLE

 

 

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Anger on the streets: Demonstrators participate in a rally against the Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad near the Warwick New York Hotel where the controversial leader is staying at while in New York

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http://www.zerohedge...excuse-war-iran

Globalist Think Tank Suggests Using Engineered Event As Excuse For War With Iran

 

Well, they have form since that what 9/11 was all about - giving them an excuse to pour funds into the military industrial complex, invade a few countries to grow lots of poppies to fund the illegal drug trade and make examples of nations for trying to sell oil for anything other than USD.

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"Consider for a moment the kind of person that it takes to nonchalantly present such a scenario; a scenario which would use the unjust deaths of innocent people (likely Americans) in order to trick the masses into supporting yet another meaningless war which will undoubtedly cost hundreds of thousands if not millions more innocent lives. Think about the moral relativism and dark-heartedness that is required to embrace this philosophy in the pithy and clinical way Clawson does. Now realize that our government today is heavily populated by men and women who think in exactly this manner. This is the rotten core of America's foreign policy on display for all to see. Take note and remember what is suggested here the next time a sudden "attack" is blamed on a convenient scapegoat like Iran and used as a primer for invasion..."

 

they are all sociopaths.

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Do Iran want a nuclear weapon? I don't think there is a clear answer. It's possible but it seems much of the rhetoric out there is based on fear. Unfounded fear. If Iran obtained a weapon, would they be dumb enough to use it? If they did I'm sure Iran would be wiped off the map within 36 hours, and surely they realise that. I suppose if they got a weapon the clear danger would be a revolution within Iran that installed an extremist ideologue, that would be a huge concern.

 

Like George Carlin says, it's probably just a big dick waving exercise...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=sDkhzHQO7jY

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BBC excerpt;

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19763642

 

"Syria 'moving chemical weapons'

 

Fierce fighting is continuing in Aleppo

The Syrian government has moved some of its chemical weapons to safety as it battles rebel forces, US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta says.

 

He said there was intelligence that there had been "limited movement" to secure the chemicals, but that "the major sites still remain in place".

 

Syria has admitted to having a large stockpile of chemical weapons."

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Global research excerpt;

 

http://www.globalresearch.ca/chossudovsky-does-america-plan-to-use-nukes-against-iran/

 

"Does America Plan to Use Nukes against Iran?

 

Documented in Michel Chossudovsky’s recently released book, Towards a World War III Scenario, The Dangers of Nuclear War, the U.S. has steadily loosened the restrictions on the use of its nuclear weapons in time of war.

 

Based on the fallacious notion advanced by the Pentagon that “mini-nukes” are not dangerous to civilians, Congress in 2002 gave the Pentagon a green light to use them in “conventional war theaters” alongside traditional weapons. In fact, the so-called mini-nukes may have up to six times the blast power of the atomic bomb that leveled Hiroshima on August 6, 1945!

 

The Pentagon’s official Nuclear Posture Review (NPR) of 2001 was risky enough. That document created “contingency plans” for an actual offensive “first strike use” of nuclear weapons against Iran and North Korea as well as against Russia and China. These were adopted without real public debate. The very notion that the U.S. would so much as consider a “first strike” nuclear attack on another country likely would be rejected overwhelmingly by an American public staunchly opposed to starting any war of aggression, much less a nuclear holocaust.

 

The adoption by Congress of the NPR late the following year legitimized the Pentagon’s illegal (under international law) preemptive nuclear war doctrine both in terms of military planning as well as defense procurement and production. Congress not only rolled back its prohibition on low-yield nuclear weapons, it also funded them. In so doing, it expanded what had been an exclusive presidential prerogative to instead confer decision-making powers on battlefield commanders as well. Thus, a general in charge of a regional war zone, say, covering Central Asia or the Middle East could order the use of tactical nuclear weapons without getting a green light from the President and Commander in Chief."

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