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Ron Paul - The Prophet? / article in TIME Magazine

 

Time Magazine: Ron Paul "The Prophet"

Submitted by jkinabru on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 17:42

 

Twilight descends in new Hampshire as an old man climbs onto his soapbox. LIBERTY: TOO BIG TO FAIL reads a banner hanging in the jam-packed tent. He is hardly a commanding figure, but a thousand people chant his name and lean in to listen, ready to follow, as Ron Paul delivers his genre-bending stump speech. There are no focus-grouped slogans, no empty calories: Paul's talk is more like a high-fiber graduate seminar on economic theory, forgotten history and the nooks and crannies of the U.S. Constitution. "The Federal Reserve system and all their members have been counterfeiters for a long time,"...

 

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2090364,00.html#ixzz1W48YLrHP

 

remember this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vLV4jn8BMU

 

Calls for Revolution... in thinking.

"The number of those who care is growing expoentially"

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Fox channel - Live debate on Now:

 

http://www.youtube.com/foxnews

 

Ron Paul just scored well with his answer about Fences - to keep people out and in

 

Beyond Ron Paul, Huntsman consistently speaks sense. Why can people not see that he is far more appealing than supposed frontrunners like Romney and Perry?

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Fox channel - Live debate on Now:

http://www.youtube.com/foxnews

The soundbite of the night, was from Gary Johnson:

"My neighbor's dog has created more shovel-ready projects than this adminstration."

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The News many had been waiting for may be close...

 

2011-09-27t210035z_01_btre78q1md400_rtroptp_3_sunvalley.grid-6x2.jpg : A Jaba-like pose ?

 

Chris Christie confidante says NJ gov. mulling WH run

CBS News - ‎1 hour ago‎

 

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie has repeatedly said he is not running for president. But one of his predecessors who has known Christie for decades says he is now at least thinking about it.

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Big enough to be a NWO killer*?

(I think he might grab much of the Ron Paul vote)

 

*He's big (powerful and popular) now.

By 2016, he might be huge enough to bite the head off the NWO.

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The News many had been waiting for may be close...

 

Chris Christie confidante says NJ gov. mulling WH run

CBS News - ‎1 hour ago‎

 

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie has repeatedly said he is not running for president. But one of his predecessors who has known Christie for decades says he is now at least thinking about it.

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Big enough to be a NWO killer?

(I think he might grab much of the Ron Paul vote)

He is probably WISE enough to wait-

He looks more and more like the hero that America is waiting for - But I doubt he was in the NWO training school the way that Obama was. (Romney seems to be the Illuminati choice, if Obama falters.) Christie is too courageous and too honest to make the NWO comfortable. He's big now, but by 2016 he might be huge enough, and the NWO weak enough, to take them on. (His real opponent would not be Obama, it would be the people who seek to control him the way they control Obama and controlled Bush.)

 

"When it comes to running for president, you don't pick the time. The time picks you," said Patrick Murray, director of the Monmouth University Polling Institute in New Jersey. "If his burning desire is to be president, then the time is now. You don't know what the environment will be in 2016 or 2020."

Other political news of note

 

Christie has yet to display even a flickering desire, repeating many times that he is not interested. Sometimes he says it with candor ("I'm not ready"), sometimes with humor ("What, short of suicide, do I have to do to convince people I'm not running?")

 

Christie, who was elected governor in 2009, was on a Republican Party fund-raising tour with stops in Missouri and California, including a speech at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation & Library on Tuesday night, which only heightened speculation he might change his mind. Excerpts released ahead his speech made no mention of presidential intentions.

 

"This is a do or die moment for him," said Brigid Harrison, a professor of political science and law at New Jersey's Montclair State University.

 

"There is a risk in waiting," she said, because by 2016, "he won't be the new kid on the block anymore."

 

/more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44692528/ns/politics-decision_2012

 

The US needs a President who speaks like this

 

 

 

The idea of Palin as president makes me feel ill. Christie gives hope.

With Romney, I see more of the same. (It is a great pity that Mitt lacks

his father's courage. Governor George Romney would have made a fine President.)

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I'd like to see how the declared candidates do in a discussion like this.

 

 

"If you are the executive, the executive needs to lead."

"Our state is extraordinarily over-taxed."

"In NJ, we did not demigog people... we need to treat (our opponents) with respect and fairness."

 

"What America needs now is someone who will look them in the eye and tell them the truth."

(Does anyone doubt that Christie is doing that.

Does anyone think, say Romney, is doing that?)

 

"Americans are "tired of blow-dried... tested answers... I don't sound the same."

 

"Three big things: Keep our budget under control, Pension and benefit reform, improving our education."

 

"The person who picked me as Vice President would need to be sedated."

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"What America needs now is someone who will look them in the eye and tell them the truth."

(Does anyone doubt that Christie is doing that.

Does anyone think, say Romney, is doing that?)

Christie to Presidential wannabees : "If you want to be popular and win, try telling the truth." (that's my interpretation.

 

After Christie Speech, the Answer Is Still 'No'

 

By JONATHAN WEISMAN

 

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie delivered a muscular plea for national unity in a speech Tuesday at the Ronald Reagan presidential library. Although he and those close to him have said repeatedly he won't run for president, the California appearance nonetheless stoked speculation he would enter the Republican nomination contest.

 

Talk of a Christie bid has risen since Thursday night's Republican presidential debate, when a shaky performance by Texas Gov. Rick Perry*, who has led in many polls of the GOP field, sent some Republican donors looking for an alternative.

 

New Jersey Governor Chris Christie delivers remarks at the Reagan Library in Simi Valley, Calif., on Tuesday.

 

Asked after his speech whether he would run for president, Mr. Christie referred to answers he has given in the past: He's not running. He also joked that the audience only raised the issue as its second question, saying: "You people are off your game.''

 

Mr. Christie's brother, Todd Christie, told the Newark Star-Ledger on Tuesday that the first-term governor wouldn't run, saying, "If he's lying to me, I'll be as stunned as I've ever been in my life." That came a day after former New Jersey Gov. Tom Kean told the conservative National Review that odds in favor of a Christie run were increasing.

 

In answers to audience questions, Mr. Christie also took a swipe at Mr. Perry, criticizing his support of legislation to allow illegal immigrant children to get discounted, in-state tuition to colleges and universities. He also decried Mr. Perry's assertion last week at a presidential debate that opposing such legislation was heartless. "That is not a heartless position," he said. "That is a common-sense position."

 

Mr. Christie's fiscal management and confrontation with his state's teachers' unions have made him a popular figure among many Republicans nationwide. He has been raising money for candidates beyond New Jersey, including a Tuesday morning appearance in St. Louis for a congressional candidate. The Reagan library sold out its 975-seat auditorium a day and a half after the speech was announced.

. . .

The image of the New Jersey governor delivering a speech on "American exceptionalism" Tuesday night was far removed from his more parochial addresses in his state's capital of Trenton. While cast partly as a foreign-policy address, the speech dwelled on the conduct of the inhabitant of the Oval Office. It sought to contrast Mr. Christie's leadership style to President Barack Obama's, which he described as passive and rudderless.

Mr. Christie also decried "political conduct" that has diminished the nation's standing in the world and left its problems languishing, and he faulted "a president who once talked about the courage of his convictions, but still has yet to find the courage to lead."

 

But his speech focused on bipartisan compromise, not conservative red meat.

 

Instead of preaching stripped-down government, as many Republican politicians do, he said an assertive nation "takes resources—resources for defense, for intelligence, for homeland security, for diplomacy."

(hmmm. This last bit needs contemplation>)

 

/more: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204422404576597371455805398.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

 

 

*(Romney? Too eff-ing smooth, and people doubt he is genuine.)

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Harris Poll: Romney, Ron Paul Best Obama

 

Tuesday, 27 Sep 2011 .. By Greg McDonald

 

Mitt Romney stands the best chance among Republican presidential contenders of beating President Barack Obama in next year’s election, according to a new Harris Interactive poll released Tuesday.

 

The former Massachusetts governor also was the favored GOP candidate among independent voters, with Texas Rep. Ron Paul following close behind, according to the online survey of 2,462 adults taken in mid-September.

 

The news was also good for Paul when pitted against Obama in a head-to-head matchup.

 

While survey participants gave Romney a 53 percent to 47 percent edge over Obama in a general election race, they said Paul could also beat Obama by 51 percent to 49 percent.

 

When matched up against other Republican candidates however, Obama beats them all, including Texas Gov. Rick Perry by 51 percent to 49 percent.

 

The poll did give Perry the edge over his GOP challengers in the fight for the nomination, although the Harris analysts were quick to point out that the lead would likely change at the primary race continues.

 

According to the survey, 22 percent of participants said they would vote for Perry over Romney, who garnered an 18 percent share of support.

 

 

Read more on Newsmax.com: Harris Poll: Romney, Ron Paul Best Obama

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THey have got to be kidding...

 

A Romney-Paul Ticket?

 

Editorial of The New York Sun | September 29, 2011

 

If Americans had to choose from the current Republican field, the lastest Harris polling shows that Mr. Obama would beat them all save for two — Governor Romney and Congressman Paul. The polling news was brought in Tuesday by Harris, whose most recent tally shows that in a head-to-head race Governor Romney would beat President Obama by something like 53% to 47. If Ron Paul were the Republican nominee, the Harris Poll reckons, he would beat President Obama 51% to 49%. So the thought presents itself: What about a ticket comprising the opposing personas of Messrs. Romney and Paul?

 

On the face of it the idea seems absurd. Governor Romney is a centrist Republican who has only lately come to the idea that it’s okay to criticize the Federal Reserve. He has stated that he would let no light shine between a Romney administration and Israel. Dr. Paul, in contrast, has operated on the rightward edge of his party. He’s made the repeal of the Federal Reserve Act a goal of his career. His libertarian principles have led him to campaign against America’s foreign and military aid to Israel. Those are but two of the differences that obtain between the two.

 

Just — or at least — as a thought experiment, though, one could consider the contrary. Dr. Paul has a huge, impassioned following. It’s no small thing that a congressman is polling ahead of an incumbent president, and it no doubt reflects his long adherence to the principles of limited, constitutional government that would maximize liberty. Dr. Paul has an almost ethereal manner, and doesn’t exude what might be called the “executive personality.” He is, one could argue, an educator more than a c.e.o.

 

But wouldn’t that be a perfect fit for a governor turned president, which is what Mr. Romney would be? Particularly if one considers that Mr. Romney suffers, at least in the view of many, from being a centrist and accommodator, rather than committed libertarian. In other words, it is possible to imagine that Dr. Paul would bring, with his fierce sense of principle, a virtue to the team that Mr. Romney is in need of. And that Mr. Romney’s overall policy mix could benefit from some of Dr. Paul’s ideas.

 

/more: http://www.nysun.com/editorials/a-romney-paul-ticket/87501/

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With Christie out, maybe straight-talking Jesse Ventura should run

 

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Chris Christie said he laughed at this, and said "maybe 8 out of 10 were funny":

 

Letterman offers Christie fat jokes in Top 10 list

New Jersey Newsroom ^ | 9/29/11 | TOM HESTER SR.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-stkoKkV5ZQ

 

And the Follow-up Show

 

On Tuesday night, the governor was the subject of David Letterman’s Top 10 list under the topic “Ways the Country Would be Different if Chris Christie was President.”

 

10. Al-Qaeda taunts America with ‘Yo president’s so fat’ jokes.

 

9. Goodbye White House vegetable garden.

 

8. Cabinet now has a Secretary of Cake.

 

7. New state: Fatassachusetts.

 

6. Congress does whatever he wants, ‘cause fat guys are, like super-strong when they freak out.

 

5. Presidential retreat moved from Camp David to Hershey Park.

 

4. Taxpayers would have to pay for president’s second seat on Air Force One.

 

3. New National Anthem: The “Chili’s Baby Back Ribs” song.

 

2. Instead of Iraq, we’d invade IHOP.

 

1. Scandal when president is caught in Oval Office with Betty Crocker and Sara Lee.

 

After that.

Watch this: "Real leaders don't read polls, they change polls."

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The REAL Problem For Chris Christie: Republicans Are Going To Hate Him

 

Grace Wyler | Sep. 30, 2011,

 

Republicans, perpetually dissatisfied with the 2012 GOP presidential field, have set their eyes on New Jersey Governor Chris Christie and don't seem to be taking his no(s) for an answer.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry's meltdown at last week's Florida GOP debate added new urgency to their pleas — several big conservative Wall Street donors have basically spent the entire week trying to convince Christie to jump in the race. And word is he may be reconsidering his refusals.

 

But will he really be the answer to the GOP's prayers? Or will Republicans lose interest as soon as it becomes clear Christie might not be as conservative (or appealing) as the Northeast media thinks he is.

Right now, all anyone can see is a straight-talking governor who has ruthlessly slashed spending and stuck it to Big Labor, all without a hint of a Southern drawl.

 

But if Christie decides to throw his hat in the ring, they will have to come to terms with the fact that he is unlikely to fly with the party's ultra-conservative, tri-corner-hat-wearing, Bible-toting base.

 

Here's why:

He supports gun control. That's right — Chris Christie wants to encroach upon the sacred Second. In an interview with Sean Hannity in 2009, Christie said he supports "common-sense" gun control laws to deal with New Jersey's "hand gun problem." Compare that to Rick "Use Both Hands" Perry and Christie's got no shot south of the Mason-Dixon.

 

He believes in climate change.

 

He thinks illegal immigrants should get amnesty. If the GOP thought Rick Perry has an illegal immigration problem, just wait until they hear from Christie. He has said that he believes their should be an "orderly path to citizenship," which, to the Tea Party, is pretty much the same thing as an open invitation to cross the border.

 

He likes Muslims

 

He called Obama an "ally on education." In a year where more than one of the Republican presidential candidates has called for abolishing the Department of Education entirely, Christie may as well be running as a Democrat.

 

/more: http://www.businessinsider.com/why-republicans-will-end-up-hating-chris-christie-2011-9

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Here's The Chart That Will Get Obama Fired

 

Henry Blodget | Oct. 9, 2011

 

Ezra Klein of the Washington Post has written an excellent treatise on how the American economy collapsed, what the government did about it, and what the government might have done differently that would have actually fixed it.

 

unemployment-rate-obama-stimulus.jpg

 

As the chart makes instantly crystal clear, the Obama administration drastically underestimated how bad the economy was and drastically overestimated its ability to do something about it.

As a result of this, President Obama over-promised and under-delivered on the single most important challenge of his Presidency (so far).

 

Also as a result, President Obama gave the Republicans ammunition to argue that his stimulus "failed," when, in fact, it helped matters considerably (just not enough to fix everything).

(Obviously it's not this chart that will get Obama fired--it's what the chart shows: Unemployment well above the level at which any President since Roosevelt has been re-elected, and the "failure" of Obama's stimulus to bring it down to a level that he said it would.)

 

/more: http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-the-chart-that-will-get-obama-fired-2011-10

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Republican Debate commentary

 

Mitt Romney: Another sterling debate performance from Romney,

 

....who once again looked far more presidential than anyone else onstage. During the portion of the debate in which the candidates asked each other questions, rivals like Herman Cain and Rick Perry took direct aim at him; Romney hit back hard at Perry, leaving him looking like a schoolboy with his hand caught in the candy jar, and suggested Cain's claim that Romney's economic plan was too complicated showed Cain didn't understand the complicated nature of the economy. When Romney asked his question, he directed a softball to Michele Bachmann - a show of strength in light of Bachmann's long odds at winning the nomination. Romney would be all too happy to see Bachmann stick around at least until to the Iowa caucuses, where she can split the conservative vote with Cain and Perry and give Romney the opening he needs to win the state.

 

/more: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20118966-503544.html

 

Reaction:

 

Sorry, Mitt, but nobody more clearly represents the Toxic Corp-topcracy that is strangling the country more that your-goodself. I think the reason that Herman Caine's popularity is growing is he represents a breath of fresh air.

 

Want to win, Mitt?

You might need to run against yourself. Still, the polls have you ahead, so I must be a voice in the wilderness.

 

Goodbye, Mr Perry, and Hello Herman:

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http://www.gallup.com/poll/election.aspx

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Is Obama doomed?

Commentary: One campaign veteran’s smart bets on the 2012 race

 

The latest prices offered by InTrade, the Dublin-based betting exchange, which runs futures markets on the race.

 

Obama's Fortunes

 

/Intrade’s website: http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/contract/?contractId=743474

 

It’s giving President Barack Obama a 48% chance of getting re-elected. That’s incredibly low for a sitting president — it’s been falling all year, since briefly touching 70% after the bin Laden kill.

 

But McKinnon says he thinks 48% is still way too high.

 

“I’d bet against that,” he says. “It may not even matter what kind of campaign (Obama) runs — if the economic fundamentals don’t change, the Republicans could nominate Ron Paul and win.”

 

/see: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/is-obama-doomed-2011-10-14?link=MW_story_investinginsight

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broken window fallacy

There is no fallacy in repairing a window that is already broken, causing discomfort and higher costs. Such is the state of America's infrastructure; continuing to improve it is a necessity and is in no way analogous to your "broken window."

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Some of you may want to see this

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afd_sdCWosE

 

It begins like a sporting event...

Pure entertainment? Or is it serious?

 

P2:

Is Newt running for Vice President ?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hwOr-1OYLA

 

Mitt and Perry have a go at each other in P3

 

=== ===

 

Poll: http://www.gallup.com/poll/election.aspx

 

Herman Cain's positive image among Republicans stayed that way over the past week as the percentage of Republicans familiar with him rose from 61% to 69%. Gallup finds no improvement in the fizzled images of Rick Perry and Michele Bachmann, and views toward Mitt Romney are also stable.

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Caine's 9-9-9 Tax is similar to... this old internet "fantasy": (wishes turned to web speculation)

 

What does NESARA Law do?

 

NESARA implements the following changes:

1. Zeros out all credit card, mortgage, and other bank debt due to illegal banking and government activities. This is the Federal Reserve’s worst nightmare, a “jubilee” or a forgiveness of debt.

2. Abolishes the income tax.

3. Abolishes the IRS. Employees of the IRS will be transferred into the US Treasury national sales tax area.

4. Creates a 14% flat rate non-essential new items only sales tax revenue for the government. In other words, food and medicine will not be taxed; nor will used items such as old homes.

5. Increases benefits to senior citizens.

6. Returns Constitutional Law to all courts and legal matters.

 

/more: (Can this be true?): http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-687532

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Caine's 9-9-9 Tax is similar to... this old internet "fantasy": (wishes turned to web speculation)

 

What does NESARA Law do?

 

NESARA implements the following changes:

1. Zeros out all credit card, mortgage, and other bank debt due to illegal banking and government activities. This is the Federal Reserve’s worst nightmare, a “jubilee” or a forgiveness of debt.

2. Abolishes the income tax.

3. Abolishes the IRS. Employees of the IRS will be transferred into the US Treasury national sales tax area.

4. Creates a 14% flat rate non-essential new items only sales tax revenue for the government. In other words, food and medicine will not be taxed; nor will used items such as old homes.

5. Increases benefits to senior citizens.

6. Returns Constitutional Law to all courts and legal matters.

 

/more: (Can this be true?): http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-687532

 

Is that 14% flat tax on new, non-essential items enough to pay for the common infrastructure, defence, policing, social safety net, education etc.?

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The Latest Debate - Yesterday in Michigan

 

 

You gotta feel a bit sorry for Rick Perry here

 

 

He's a better politician than a debator

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Rick Perry puts funny spin on GOP debate gaffe by reading Top Ten list on 'Late Show with David Letterman'

 

'I wanted to help take the heat off my buddy Herman Cain'

 

BY Alison Gendar , Aliyah Shahid , Thomas M. Defrank & Corky Siemaszko

NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

 

Thursday, November 10 2011, 11:28 PM

 

GOP presidential hopeful Rick Perry presents Top Ten list on 'Late Show with David Letterman.'

 

Tongue-tied Texan Rick Perry made a beeline to New York Thursday in the wake of his disastrous debate goof in hopes of undoing the damage to his faltering presidential campaign.

 

“Oh shoot, no,” Perry answered upon landing, when asked by reporters if he was toast. “This ain’t a day for quitting.”

 

Perry tried to show he wasn’t rattled by taking a few more on the chin, this time in a pre-planned comedy routine, while reading the Top Ten list on CBS’ “Late Show with David Letterman.”

 

“I dont know what youre taking about I think things went well,” was his excuse No. 9.

 

Perry had the political world abuzz for suffering a “brain freeze” on one of his key talking points, stammering for nearly a minute before saying, “Sorry . . . Oops.”

 

Perry, in his late night comedy turn, found himself riffing on chief rival Mitt Romney (“That is one handsome dude!) and referencing the sex-harassment scandal of another GOP contender (“I wanted to help take the heat off my buddy Herman Cain”).

 

In between, Perry made the media rounds, hitting ABC’s “Good Morning America,” CBS’ “The Early Show,” NBC’s “Today,” “Fox and Friends” and CNN’s “American Morning.”

 

“The issue wasn’t about whether I can sing off a line of a number of agencies,” Perry said on Today, an aw-shucks grin fixed on his face. “This is not about who is the slickest debater.

 

Perry, who had cancelled a fund-raiser to do damage control, told ABC he’d be ready for the next Republican debate Saturday in South Carolina.

 

But in a quip that had to give his handlers pause, Perry said he was prepping for this one “just like weve prepared all along.”

 

His glaring mistake Wednesday was not the first he’s made over the course of six presidential debates, but it was the worst — by far.

 

And Perry backers fear it could feed into the notion that he lacks the smarts to be President, especially when compared to the so-far unflappable Romney or smooth-talking President Obama.

 

The swaggering Texas governor was in the midst of listing which three government agencies he would cut if he were President when he suddenly drew a blank.

 

“I would do away with the Education, the Commerce and — let’s see — I can’t,” he said.

 

Then, for about 50 agonizing seconds, Perry struggled to remember the third agency on his chopping block.

 

“Seriously?” asked moderator John Harwood. “You can’t name the third one?”

 

Defeated, Perry conceded he couldn’t.

 

“The third one,” he said. “I can’t. Sorry . . . Oops.”

 

Watching from his perch as head of the University of Virginia’s Center for Politics, Larry Sabato tweeted his astonishment.

 

“To my memory, Perry’s forgetfulness is the most devastating moment of any modern primary debate.”

 

 

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/rick-perry-puts-funny-spin-gop-debate-gaffe-reading-top-ten-list-late-show-david-letterman-article-1.976034#ixzz1dNDHdFow

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Bloomberg Poll-- 4 way dead heat in Iowa... hint.. Media darlings are not in top 2 !! Seven weeks to go

 

Posted By: Watchman

Date: Tuesday, 15-Nov-2011 08:33:30

Herman Cain, Ron Paul, Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich are in a dead heat as the top choices for Iowans likely to attend the Jan. 3 Republican presidential caucuses.

 

A Bloomberg News poll shows Cain at 20 percent, Paul at 19 percent, Romney at 18 percent and Gingrich at 17 percent among the likely attendees with the caucuses that start the nominating contests seven weeks away.

 

Economic issues such as jobs, taxes and government spending are driving voter sentiment, rather than such social issues as abortion and gay marriage, the poll finds. Only about a quarter of likely caucus-goers say social or constitutional issues are more important to them, compared with 71 percent who say fiscal concerns.

 

Link to more : http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-15/romney-two-way-race-is-now-four-way-republican-dead-heat-in-iowa-caucuses.html

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THE OBAMA BET seems to correlate with stock prices

 

Obama Bet - source

 

obamabet.png

 

Barack Obama to be re-elected President in 2012:

51.5%- CHANCE

Last prediction was: $5.15 / share (also 51.5%)

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