the_innovation_Station Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 i beleave i can make free engery by converting energy i have built a working prototype i start with electricty convert it to mechanical engery then to kenetic energy then harress it with my invention convert it to mechanical energy then back to whatever electrical with overunity effieicncy i beleave it will be 5 to 10000 percent efficient it takes .5 horse power to operate and can return 2 - 300 hp it runs on 110v ac 15 amps i can apply power for 1 min ang get 10 min back in mechanical out put well i have figured this much out but i dont know how much i get back i need to find some one that has a dyno to mesure the foot lbs of torq to find out what it is capable of it could change the worl any suggestions would be great thankx the innovation station team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigmadelta Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 it could change the worl any suggestions would be great Perhaps if you could explain why the laws of thermodynamics don't apply to your invention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_innovation_Station Posted January 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 it could change the worl any suggestions would be great Perhaps if you could explain why the laws of thermodynamics don't apply to your invention. because my innvention is friction less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_innovation_Station Posted January 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 because my innvention is friction less my rotor weigh 28.5 lbs i can make it sipn at 10000 rpm in less then 2 min at a cost of almost nothing and it takes 10 min to stop spinning to make it spin it requires .5 hp of mechanical input or 110v 15 amp ac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigmadelta Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 because my innvention is friction less A completely frictionless mechanism can only ever lose 0% of the energy you put into it. You still can't gain energy. How are you deriving energy from the device? All you've said is that it takes 10 minutes to stop spinning. That sounds like plain old friction to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_innovation_Station Posted January 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 A completely frictionless mechanism can only ever lose 0% of the energy you put into it. You still can't gain energy. it dosent matter the weight of my rotor it could weight 1000 lbs and i could still matk it spin at high speed but would take longer to et there but still from.5 hp but the out put would be alot more do to the weight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_innovation_Station Posted January 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 it dosent matter the weight of my rotor it could weight 1000 lbs and i could still matk it spin at high speed but would take longer to et there but still from.5 hp but the out put would be alot more do to the weight right now i am not working with frictonless berings but when i do it will spin longer for far less in put Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigmadelta Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Sorry this is a ridiculous conversation. I cannot continue because I am laughing too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_innovation_Station Posted January 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Sorry this is a ridiculous conversation. I cannot continue because I am laughing too much.my work started where tesla left off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigmadelta Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 "Oh no it didn't!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_innovation_Station Posted January 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 "Oh no it didn't!" i invite anyone with the proper tools to mesure the output of my device Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigmadelta Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 If your invention is so good, patent it, publish your findings in an engineering journal and then come back. Nobody is going to take you seriously, especially given the above explanations which are completely inadequate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_innovation_Station Posted January 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 If your invention is so good, patent it, publish your findings in an engineering journal and then come back. Nobody is going to take you seriously, especially given the above explanations which are completely inadequate. dont beleave it is patentable because it is over unity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigmadelta Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 If you can't patent it, no investor is going to be interested in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_innovation_Station Posted January 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 If you can't patent it, no investor is going to be interested in it. i could with ease redesign the conventinal power generation plants and get rid of coal and necular power my machine has no biproduct it reuses everything and produces 1 thing that is mechanical power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_innovation_Station Posted January 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 i could with ease redesign the conventinal power generation plants and get rid of coal and necular power my machine has no biproduct it reuses everything and produces 1 thing that is mechanical poweri have a working engine i chalange anyone who has the skills and the tools to disprove me i truly beleave that i have figured this out and this technolgy will change the world as we know it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_innovation_Station Posted January 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 i have a working engine i chalange anyone who has the skills and the tools to disprove me i truly beleave that i have figured this out and this technolgy will change the world as we know it if i put .5 hp in at 100 percent efficiency i should only get .5 hp back is this right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigmadelta Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 You are confusing energy with power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_innovation_Station Posted January 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 You are confusing energy with power. how so if u break down hp it is what 768 watts / hp is that right somthing like that so if it makes 10 hp then it would be 7.68 kw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigmadelta Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 What is the total energy input of your device, and total energy output? In Joules. Not in horsepower or watts. That is power, not energy. You need to integrate the output power curve over time to find the total energy output. Have you done that? How can you expect to be taken you seriously if you demonstrate that you don't understand energy vs power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_innovation_Station Posted January 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 What is the total energy input of your device, and total energy output? In Joules. Not in horsepower or watts. That is power, not energy. You need to integrate the output power curve over time to find the total energy output. Have you done that? when i convert my electrical engery to kenitic it gains in power my way of harnessing this power i frictionless i can then get out more than i put in no i have not done that i dont know what it can do yet this is where im at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigmadelta Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 You haven't proven to yourself that you get more energy out than you put in. The statement "when i convert my electrical engery to kenitic it gains in power" is meaningless. Therefore your claim is incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_innovation_Station Posted January 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 You haven't proven to yourself that you get more energy out than you put in. So your claim is incorrect.well help me to disprove this if u can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigmadelta Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 You claim that you have a 'free energy technology breakthrough'. You have not provided evidence that energy has been created by this process, because your statements are all in terms of power. You say you have not measured the total energy output of the device so you don't have any evidence for your claim. The onus is on YOU to prove it. So far you have proven nothing except a lack of understanding of basic physics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_innovation_Station Posted January 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 You claim that you have a 'free energy technology breakthrough'. You have not provided evidence that energy has been created by this process, because your statements are all in terms of power. You say you have not measured the total energy output of the device so you don't have any evidence for your claim. The onus is on YOU to prove it. So far you have proven nothing except a lack of understanding of basic physics. what is the easyest to mesure the output i dont own an expencive dyno to mesure is there an easyer way to calculate output Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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