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"With everything kicking off in the Middle East, could this just the tip of a very large iceberg?"

 

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Wow.

You can really see "the context" in that photo.

Where's "The Green Growth" that might sustain it.

 

It purely and simply looks like a place to go to WASTE THE OIL, until it runs out.

 

What happens then?

 

I suppose it sinks back into the sand, and the people living there starve.

 

It's all rather pointless IMHO, isn't it?

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Nearly choked on my dinner. Is that for real?? Block out the tower of babel, though, and it looks like a real dump. If there ARE aliens I wonder what they think when they see us building places like this?

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I always think that the genesis of an idea like that can always be traced back to a mind trying to compensate for a real or perceived deficit in another area.

 

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I always think that the genesis of an idea like that can always be traced back to a mind trying to compensate for a real or perceived deficit in another area.

It is unclear what the 'that' in your sentence refers to. ?

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It's all rather pointless IMHO, isn't it?

:lol: Very funny!

A pointed remark, which fell flat for some.

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Nearly choked on my dinner. Is that for real?? Block out the tower of babel, though, and it looks like a real dump. If there ARE aliens I wonder what they think when they see us building places like this?

Maybe they get out their calculators and work out the potential yield.

I know that's what UK-based BTL mavens would do (with the assistance of Property Porn stars.)

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That Dubai monstrosity. Did you know the principle contractor was Samsung? Yes, that's right. Samsung.

 

So really it's just a f'ing huge refrigerator.

 

The Nakeel Tower (tower is Burj in Arabic) project was mercifully scrapped. Take a look at the schematic to put the scale of all this nonsense in perspective.

 

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Someone, or someplace, may soon have a painful shard in their eye

 

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"The age of bling is over," said Ken Shuttleworth,

the architect who led the team at Norman Foster's firm that designed the Gherkin. The 40-storey tower, which opened in 2004, would never get off the ground now, he claimed. "Money now drives everything, so if you can build something for half the price, you will." Tenants are demanding "austere and efficient" buildings that were more likely to be "ground-scrapers" than high-rises, he said. "The tall glass box is dead."

 

His outspoken remarks do not resonate with everyone at a time when London is witnessing a boom in towering buildings as developers capitalise on a projected surge in office rents. Last week Deutsche Bank suggested that rents in the centre of London could hit record levels by the end of 2013.

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"You need tall buildings not only for sustainability reasons, but because the population is increasing," said Kamran Moazami, the lead structural engineer on London Bridge's Shard and head of structural engineering at WSP Cantor Seinuk. As well as the office towers in the city going up, he also pointed to a number of residential tower schemes to show that the market for tall buildings remains in rude health.

 

Figures from Emap Glenigan, a construction information service, also suggest that there are plenty of new tower buildings on the way. There are 49 projects of more than 40 floors in the development pipeline in the UK, with just 10 on site. Of the 49, around a third got planning approval before the recession began, and about half have not yet secured planning permission.

 

Tall buildings cost more to build than low-rise structures with the same amount of space, prompting some developers to go for smaller projects. At the same time, many tenants are reluctant to pay a premium for being in a tower as belt-tightening continues.

 

Property tycoon Gerald Ronson recently admitted that it will take about 18 months to let all the space in his Heron Tower, with the lower floors going for about £55 a sq ft while the top floors will command more. Rents in the City today are around the same level as in the 1980s.

 

The towers now under construction in the City were largely conceived before the financial crisis took hold, with developers obtaining planning permission before the credit crunch. The projects were then mothballed due to a lack of finance.

 

/more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/apr/20/gherkin-architect-london-skyscraper

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At least they have found a use for the Burj Khalifa at last. Makes an excellent (if rather expensive) firework holder.....

 

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle09.asp?xfile=data/theuae/2012/January/theuae_January2.xml&section=theuae

 

These days it might be more appropriate to concentrate on the more important aspects of running a desert economy.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/8983353/Major-Dubai-companies-may-need-bail-outs.html

 

It seems the madness will continue into 2012.

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"With everything kicking off in the Middle East, could this just the tip of a very large iceberg?"

 

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Ah they built that as a lifesize set (no expense was spared) for the filming on the next generation of Star Wars movies. Don't worry they'll take it down after.

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At least they have found a use for the Burj Khalifa at last. Makes an excellent (if rather expensive) firework holder.....

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle09.asp?xfile=data/theuae/2012/January/theuae_January2.xml&section=theuae

Some where impressed

 

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Blake Higgins, a tourist visiting Dubai to celebrate New Year said: “It is one of the finest cities in the world and being outside the world’s tallest building is simply a wonderful feeling. I am enjoying every moment of my visit to the city.”

 

Tourists visiting the Downtown made it a point to capture the memories in photos.

 

The world's most expensive "photo opportunity"

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The stratospheric appeal of 'supertall' buildings

December 30, 2011

 

Hubris and scandals colour the history of buildings that stretch the limits of engineering, and yet the allure of high buildings is stronger than ever.

 

Dubai's real-estate sector was collapsing when the country opened the Burj Khalifa, a skyscraper that rises in silvery setbacks a dizzying 828 metres.

 

The skyscraper opened with elevator problems and a cash crunch and its labour practices drew the attention of Human Rights Watch.

 

Yet the building makes visitors swoon. Gorgeous architecture has a way of sweeping away doubts. Designed by the Chicago office of Skidmore, Owings & Merrill and ex-partner Adrian Smith, its shimmering magical thinness seems to dissolve into the stratospheric mists.

 

It is one of the highlights of a new “Supertall!” exhibition in New York's Skyscraper Museum, focused on a rarefied class of 48 buildings taller than 381 metres (the height of the 1931 Empire State Building).

 

One is the suave Guangzhou International Financial Centre in China. London-based Wilkinson Eyre and the global engineering firm Arup crowned the 440 metre tower with 30 floors of hotel rooms opening onto scalloped balconies wrapping a wow-inducing skylighted atrium.

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Skyscraper Curse

“Supertall” buildings, with stratospheric condos and five-star hotel rooms, have a way of opening just as markets implode. This is the famous Skyscraper Curse. The Tokyo-based Mori group started the Shanghai World Financial Centre in 1997, just as the Asian financial crisis hit. Mori made it even taller once conditions improved, though it didn't open until 2008.

 

If the Curse is your oracle, be afraid for China (22 towers in the skyscraper show, including Hong Kong), Dubai (6 that survived the market meltdown), and South Korea (4). Despite real-estate collapses in many markets, Willis found 13 more “supertalls” in her current survey than she did in bubbly 2007.

 

Skyscrapers remain assertions of ego, advertisements for success and monuments to overreaching. But as you gaze at the panorama of city lights spread out below some atrium sky-lobby, you can't fail to recognise that their bigness goes with the century of the global megacity.

 

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/executive-style/culture/the-stratospheric-appeal-of-supertall-buildings-20111229-1pdgb.html#ixzz1iG29lXxt

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Beware of skyscrapers and other market tops

http://www.marketwat...tops-2012-01-13

The BBC noted that the findings might be a concern for Londoners, who are currently seeing the construction of what will be Western Europe's tallest building, the Shard. It will be 1,017 feet upon completion.

 

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Investors should be most concerned about China, which is currently building half of all the tall buildings in the world, the bank said.

 

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More:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16494013

 

Would be interesting to read this report that Barcap do; I don't think it's publicly available, though.

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"With everything kicking off in the Middle East, could this just the tip of a very large iceberg?"

 

burj_khalifa_tower_wallpaper-1400x1050.jpg

Wow.

You can really see "the context" in that photo.

 

It's all rather pointless IMHO, isn't it?

 

Was there last year, is quite a bit more developed around it now. If oil tanks like it did in 2008 then they will have serious problems - they will need to prod Iran to do something silly to get prices up ;)

 

A couple of photos I took just as a sandstorm was blowing in and obscuring the view. At nearly $30 to go to the observation desk for advance tickets and over $100 for immediate tickets, maybe they are hoping to recoup their money that way.

 

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I am generally in favour of tall buildings though, as long as attractive and no tax payer funding involved - recycles money from the stupid to the rest; much like lottery tickets come to think of it.

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RAPID RECORD for the New Sky City ?

 

A Chinese construction company is planning to build the worldest Tallest building - and in record time.

 

The same company, Changsa-based Broad Group, gained internet fame for this:

 

( 15-story hotel in six days ):

 

"The skyscraper - dubbed Tiankong Chengshi, or Sky City, and to be located in Broad's home city of Changsa in Central China's Hunan province - will climb to a height of 838 meters. That's 10 meters higehr than the world's current tallest building, the Burj Khalifa in Dubai."

 

The secret to Broad's success is prefabrication, and the plans for the new Record-Tall building are based upon the designs of "the architects of the Dubai tower", so maybe they can actual achieve it. They started in April 2012, and plan to finish in January 2013 - that's 220 floors in nine months, or about 25 floors a month, just under one a day. That would be an acheivement for any building, but for the world's tallest, it is truly astonishing.

 

- today's WSJ

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First you don't see it, then you do...

 

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Big Brother is about to arrive

 

China to build world's tallest tower 220-storey 'Sky City' in Changsha in 3 mths

 

Updated: 13 Jun 2012

 

 

Sky City: The developers in Changsa have an ambitious plan to get the gleaming 838m tower in the skies in just 90 days - prefabricating most of the parts in order to make the self-imposed deadline

 

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World's tallest (for now): The Burj Khalifa, 828m tall, in Dubai

 

If you want to reach the top, you have got to move fast.

 

This must be the logic of a Chinese consortium, who seem confident that they can bend time and space and build the world's tallest tower - all 838 metres of it - in just three months.

 

As soon as the 220-storey 'Sky City', in Changsha, the provicincial capital of Hunan, is complete, it will take the mantle of the world's tallest building.

 

That means it will beat Dubai's current world-beater, the Burj Khalifa - which took five years to build.

Broad Sustainable Building (BSB), a construction company based in Hunan, believers they can do the whole $628million construction in 90 days.

 

The building will also beat China’s current biggest skyscraper poster - the 632-meter Shanghai Tower.

 

The project has been given the go-ahead in Changsha, but the central government still need to sign off on the deal.

 

But if the go-ahead comes, BSB chief executive officer Zhang Yue wants to start building this November - and finish in January 2013.

 

The company has been quite quiet on the use of the building, but earlier plans in 2010 - when the building was going to be 'just' 666m, would be used to home 70,000 to 110,000 residents.

 

There is a track record for BSB, a previous 15-storey construction was put up in six days in June 2010 - and a 30-storey building in just 360 hours.

 

The key to their speed is prefabricating large portions of the buildings in factories - so technically most of the tower will be built before the first digger hits the site.

 

This is similar to some German construction companies such as Huf Haus, who built homes in their factories before constructing them on-site.

 

The new building will have 104 elevators, one million square metres of floor space, and quadruple glazing.

 

SOURCE: Daily Mail : http://www.whatsonxiamen.com/news25662.html

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That Dubai monstrosity. Did you know the principle contractor was Samsung? Yes, that's right. Samsung.

 

So really it's just a f'ing huge refrigerator.

 

The Nakeel Tower (tower is Burj in Arabic) project was mercifully scrapped. Take a look at the schematic to put the scale of all this nonsense in perspective.

 

<img src="http://www.overseaspropertymall.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/nakheel_tower_comparison_to_worlds_tallest_buildings.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

 

A New order is coming...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ1KF1nP4Ao

 

This list, does not include the Changsha building

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A New order is coming...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ1KF1nP4Ao

 

This list, does not include the Changsha building

It doesn't include the London Shard, either. I wonder how that is coming along? It is interesting to consider the completion dates of these towers (all by 2015) with Prechter's '2016 grand supercycle bottom forecast' and other works like Kunstler, marking the building of skyscrapers with a general decline in trade/economy etc... They will surely be seen as ridiculous monuments to an end of era of some sorts. Paper, debt based money, hubris, techno grandiosity, whatever.

 

Of interest, here, is the recently completed Tokyo Skytree tower...just made as an anniversary present to the 26 year bear market in the Nikkei.

 

Gravestones, all of them? Awe inspiring, but gravestones nevertheless.

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"It is interesting to consider the completion dates of these towers (all by 2015) with Prechter's '2016 grand supercycle bottom forecast' "

 

That low might get delayed ...

Here's Prechter looking at the Social Mood :

The announcements-to-build occur near peaks. Completions occur after the build periods, however long they last.

These big buildings used to take 6-10 years to build, but the 9 months for the Changsa building is something need.

 

Of interest, here, is the recently completed Tokyo Skytree tower...just made as an anniversary present to the 26 year bear market in the Nikkei.

 

Gravestones, all of them? Awe inspiring, but gravestones nevertheless.

 

The Tokyo SkyTree / Tallest Tower, and

 

 

Tokyo Sky Tree is located in Sumida Ward, Tokyo City, Japan. Tokyo Sky Tree is the tallest tower in the world at a height of over 600 meters (over 1800 feet). Burj Khalifa in Dubai is the tallest building in the world at a height of over 800 meters but Tokyo Sky Tree gets the distinction of being the tallest tower.

 

Any tall structure in Japan, needs to be built with extra strength to withstand massive earthquakes that country suffers. The Tokyo Sky Tree passed this test with flying colors, when largest earth quake in Japan's history hit in March of 2011. The Sky Tree shook but stood firm. The designers and the builders attribute this strength to the way the base of the tower is built. The base of the tower has concrete and steel columns that stretch out like tree roots, which provide extreme strength to this tower.

 

 

The Changsa SkyCity - 838 Meters, in just 7 months

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QANidB77tI&NR=1

 

"A city within a city"

 

Broad Group, which is known for sustainable building technology, is reported to build the world's next tallest building in Changsha City, Hunan Province, China. The Chinese conglomerate has a track of records as a fast builder. Sky City is one of the largest projects they are taking on now - a skyscraper with 838 meters tall and 200 floors high. The project is going to take 7 months to complete.

 

Sustainable?

Only if there is sufficient power to run the elevators and the heating and cooling

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"It is interesting to consider the completion dates of these towers (all by 2015) with Prechter's '2016 grand supercycle bottom forecast' "

 

That low might get delayed

 

 

I am getting used to 'delays' and it is a strange feeling to be wanting to crash to the bottom asap! I just wish we could get it all over with and onto the next stage. However te 2016 cycle call is still 3 and a half years away...though I suppose the bottom will last YEARS. With my kids growing up into that malaise, you can understand my wish for haste. Perhaps that is a very short sighted view in one respect and I should plan for an extended cruise and bumpy ride, to say the least, along the bottom.

 

Regarding Skytree's ability to withstand large quakes, and other outbursts of hubris regarding quake proof skyscrapers, we shall see what damage is inflicted after a direct 8 or 9 for Tokyo. Has man conqured nature? I doubt it. The tsunami walls were supposed to do the same. Shame for those that put their faith in them. I am not wishing for Tokyo to fall down btw. Just that I have learned not to trust the faith and promises of stupid humans. Reminders of 'it's different this time', 'a permanent plateau', 'quake proof', 'eco car/house', 'tsunami warnings', 'volcano/quake predictions', 'xxxxBS'. Sure we can strive to do our best to make life better in all respects but we are so small and irrelevant against nature...which is wonderful and terrifying at the same time.

 

Has Prechter pushed his dates out again?

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Has Prechter pushed his dates out again?

I do not know.

But others, like Glen Neely at Neowave, are talking about a 10 year correction

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