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  1. I think Goldfinger meant the ones panic selling or getting stopped out at big losses are the manic chickens. The buy to holders are always sensible
  2. This is crazy, we have a situation where the banks have priced risk higher and also cut the LTV they will lend. Also they want to limit the downside to any housing crash as they are already up to their eyeballs in it. At the other end they are flooded with cheap money so they don't need to attract savings. So the borrowers and savers are both screwed by the banks helped by government policy.
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