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"The western elite entrusted their ill gotten gold with certain vault providers and managers." Could we please stop calling the scum that are somehow in charge "elite"? They're far from it!

Does anyone know who this fellow Thomas Beecham is? No need to welcome me back, Bubb, it's a given

Anyone seen and care to comment on this illuminating article at Henry Makow? http://henrymakow.com/2015/07/Cabalist-Deception-Invades-the-Markets.html I went to buy some Silver Maples today (I must be one of the "sixpack" crowd mentioned in the article!) and they'd sold out...... are we being played for suckers?? If the article is right, then I am indeed a sucker..... The embedded article from 2013 is worth a read too... he calls out zerohedge, alex jones etc.! http://henrymakow.com/2013/02/What-is-Ailing-Gold.html

Cheer up.... http://www.lemetropolecafe.com/Pfv1.cfm?pf...drian%20Douglas

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7920895.stm Something sad about this.... I don't know what exactly. "Erin pays about 60% of the market price, and then sells the gold in bulk to a refinery for about 95% of the going rate. So the refinery pays below market rates, Erin makes a profit and, at more than $900 (£640) an ounce, the guests feel like they are getting money for nothing. Here, at least, gold parties are not a way to make ends meet. They offer easy liquidity for the cash-strapped middle-classes."

I just wandered back to the thread that indirectly caused a lot of people to end up here.... the "Gold and why it will go the same way as property" thread goldthread.tiff I was amazed to see how popular it still is, even though demoted to a sub-forum. Nearly half a million views and over 10,000 responses.... incredible! I know, it doesn't add anything to this thread, just thought I'd drop it in as some here will know it.....

Very good :lol:

Don't worry gents..... Mercury stops being retrograde tomorrow and we'll understand each other better. I just saw Pluto's post on the main thread about gold scarcity..... Kitco still haven't had any replenishment stocks....

A low-brow observation I know, but all Kitco have for sale today is 1oz Gold maples (Olympic Edition), 400 oz gold bars and 1000 oz silver bars. Only a couple of weeks ago they had just about everything, including 10g chips, Krugs etc. It's all gone today......

I paid another visit to Kitco today, knowing that the price is falling and may well drop below 700 bucks. But I bought it anyway. The reason I bought a little more today is that if things do start going (even more) pear shaped.... just try and get some then! It will be impossible. Silver has gone.... Kitco are advertising for sellers to come through the door. Gold is now scarce for the public in the USA, apparently. And Kitco was much busier than when I popped in last week.... I waited nearly 30 minutes before I got to a "till". I now feel comfortable that I have a little put by for an emergency.....

Sure. Can you wait 'till tomorrow? I've had a hard day.....

Once again, Executive Order 11110 is still valid. According to Title 3, United States Code, Section 301 dated January 26, 1998: Executive Order (EO) 10289 dated Sept. 17, 1951, 16 F.R. 9499, was as amended by: EO 10583, dated December 18, 1954, 19 F.R. 8725; EO 10882 dated July 18, 1960, 25 F.R. 6869; EO 11110 dated June 4, 1963, 28 F.R. 5605; EO 11825 dated December 31, 1974, 40 F.R. 1003; EO 12608 dated September 9, 1987, 52 F.R. 34617 The 1974 and 1987 amendments, added after Kennedy's 1963 amendment, did not change or alter any part of Kennedy's EO 11110. A search of Clinton's 1998 and 1999 EO's and Presidential Directives has also shown no reference to any alterations, suspensions, or changes to EO 11110. The Federal Reserve Bank, a.k.a Federal Reserve System, is a Private Corporation. Black's Law Dictionary defines the "Federal Reserve System" as: "Network of twelve central banks to which most national banks belong and to which state chartered banks may belong. Membership rules require investment of stock and minimum reserves." Privately-owned banks own the stock of the FED. This was explained in more detail in the case of Lewis v. United States, Federal Reporter, 2nd Series, Vol. 680, Pages 1239, 1241 (1982), where the court said: "Each Federal Reserve Bank is a separate corporation owned by commercial banks in its region. The stock-holding commercial banks elect two thirds of each Bank's nine member board of directors". Executive Order 11110 AMENDMENT OF EXECUTIVE ORDER NO. 10289 AS AMENDED, RELATING TO THE PERFORMANCE OF CERTAIN FUNCTIONS AFFECTING THE DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY By virtue of the authority vested in me by section 301 of title 3 of the United States Code, it is ordered as follows: Section 1. Executive Order No. 10289 of September 19, 1951, as amended, is hereby further amended- By adding at the end of paragraph 1 thereof the following subparagraph (j): (j) The authority vested in the President by paragraph ( of section 43 of the Act of May 12,1933, as amended (31 U.S.C.821(), to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury not then held for redemption of any outstanding silver certificates, to prescribe the denomination of such silver certificates, and to coin standard silver dollars and subsidiary silver currency for their redemption and -- Byrevoking subparagraphs ( and © of paragraph 2 thereof. Sec. 2. The amendments made by this Order shall not affect any act done, or any right accruing or accrued or any suit or proceeding had or commenced in any civil or criminal cause prior to the date of this Order but all such liabilities shall continue and may be enforced as if said amendments had not been made. John F. Kennedy The White House, June 4, 1963. http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/thefederalreserve.htm Now, those little funny winky faces shouldn't be there!

Bugger. Will an ounce get me very far??

This is a good site.... and now they mention shiny stuff! The Voice of the White House Washington, D.C., September 26, 2008: “After 9/11, George Bush decided to put some hair on his sunken chest and fight a nice big war. The oil people and the Neocons whispered into his hairy ears that he could invade Iraq, save Precious Israel from an enemy and get all kinds of oil for the both of them. George is a nasty piece of work and as crooked as they come so he jammed an Imperial War Decree through a terrified Congress with ease. Now, with other friends of his, the crooked slimeball bankers, in danger of imminent meltdown due to their thievery, George has tried to jam another Imperial Decree through Congress. This one would give him huge amounts of money, unsupervised as to use, and make the docile American people eat the bill. This time a thoroughly discredited Bush has failed in his efforts on behalf of his friends and the American public has become aroused and infuriated to the point where another terrified Congress is refusing to heed the thoroughly discredited Bush. What will eventually happen, no one knows, but we now see that the Bush/Rove Might Republican Machine has run out of gas by the side of the highway and its crew of rodents are fleeing into the nearby woods for protection. And may I give you several pieces of what I consider sound advice? First, if you have any extra money in one of the bigger banks, take it out and put it in a shoe box in your closet. If these banks start to collapse suddenly, which they are very likely to do, even the Government can’t supply them and their branches with enough paper to cover deposits. The second thought is to take some extra money, assuming you have any, and buy gold with it. Get this from a reputable coin dealer and buy older European gold coins like British Sovereigns and Half Sovereigns, French or Swiss francs. Keep away from weird gold from small countries…very hard to sell if you need to….and never, never buy gold and let some big company help you out by insisting they will store it in their “safe vaults.” Hah! And off to Aruba with them for sun and fun and their loot into Lichtenstein banks. Keep the money where you can get at it. Banks can no longer be trusted as we have found out the hard way.” http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a2878.htm

Kitco have "shops" too. Well secured shops (hence "fortress".) You go in, press a button to "Buy" or "Sell", a number is dispensed. When your number comes up, you go to one of several small private rooms and buy your gold. They had Maples, Krugs, Eagles and the baby bars that I bought. I bought a bar at CAD 932 rather than a maple at 965. You can spend up to 10,000 dollars in cash, or 1000 on debit card. Anything bigger needs a bank draft. If you spend over 10k, they take a lot of details from you. Anything less, they don't even ask your name.