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Cuthbert Calculus
With the rising cost of motoring and public transport, their various inefficiences, and the very real threat of terrorist attacks, the number of cyclists in London has more than doubled since 2000. I know because I voiced a documentary about it for TFL this morning.

This growth is despite the fact that London is not a cycling-friendly city. There are too many hills, it is too cold in winter and often too wet, while the sheer number of cars, taxis and bendy buses make it a risky proposition. Nevertheless the prospects for the London cyclist have improved under Red Ken. He has appointed a cycling tsar to oversee. How about elsewhere?

Getting more people cycling is a huge problem solver. On one level it reduces traffic congestion, on another it improves people's fitness and health (Unless they get hit by a bendy bus). But there is not much money in it, which, I am sure, is part of the reason it has been so overlooked by the authorities.

Where is the money to be made?

Bike shops, such as Evans; the bike manufacturers themselves - but people don't spend that much on bikes, often cos they get stolen, and often because there is not the same accommpanying status that there is with a car. And once a bike is bought, there is not much to made from servicing. Statistically, people don't renew their bikes so often either.

How else? Accessories.

The company that makes the metal things that people padlock their bikes to. More and more of those are appearing all the time.

More money is being spent on cycle lanes. In London they are still rubbish. Everyone drives or parks in them, but it's better than nothing.

(In Malmo in Sweden, where I visited last summer, they have separate ROADS for bikes, cars and pedestrians. It is impossible for a car to enter the bike lanes because there is a large curb in the way. Now that makes life safe for the cyclist. TFL say there isn't enough space. I think there is. Cars and bikes do not mix and they should be kept apart. Everyone would be happier, safer and better off. As a motorist, I hate cyclists and as a cyclist, I hate cars. Sorry. Rant over)

But as cities worldwide become more congested, as the price of oil rises and it becomes more expensive to travel by car, tube, train or bus, will we see a growth in the number of cyclists? I think so. Is there much money to be made from it? Unless cities worldwide adopt building schemes to restructure their streets to better accomodate this great form of transport, I doubt it.

Your thoughts, l and g.
Member100
Red Ken has appointed "a cycling tsar" ?

A Tsar on a bike- there's an idea.

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megaflop
A lot of this depends on attitude.

I cycled to and from work every day for four years (south Manchester). It was about 2.5 miles in either direction.

Some negative issues

- Traffic danger to cyclists from crowded streets, driver impatience
- Parking in the few cycle lanes we do have
- Bad cyclists jumping red lights, this pisses me right off, and I AM a cyclist!

Some positive issues

+ In four years I only got seriously wet about five times. Weather is less of a problem than people are led to believe.

+ We do not need special roads to be built just for cycling particularly, re-use of existing pavements can be achieved.

+ Surfaces used solely by cyclists require next to no maintenance.

QUOTE
And once a bike is bought, there is not much to made from servicing

FYI - Not if you're a seasoned mountain biker, far from it. But a commute bike, agreed.
wayneL
Ahead of the curve!

Mind you, a bit easier in a town of 30,000 than in a city of umpteen million, smile.gif

DrBubb
The folding variety of Bicycle, can be a great option, since it makes:

TRAIN + BIKE and PLANE + BIKE journeys much easier.

Any recommendations?

I understand Clive Sinclair has launched a new folding bike, and I want to look at that on this thread
chickensoup
The bromptons have a very good reputation.

There are some reviews on the folding societys website.

http://www.foldsoc.co.uk/
Cuthbert Calculus
I have a Brompton and it is GREAT. A little heavy to carry when it's folded, but a great ride and surprisingly fast given its appearance. You often find yourself cruising past people on more professiional looking bikes, much to their annoyance.

They are expsensive, £500, but are gaining in popularity. You see a lot of the trendy Soho-ites with them these days.

And I agree with Megaflop that the re-use of existing pavements is the way forward for cycle lanes. what's more, once built, a cycle lane will need little maintenance.

But how does an investor make money from this alternative transport?

I don't think there's a great deal to be made, myself, until there is a change in attitude up top.

I'd like to know more about this Sinclair bike.
trompe le monde
QUOTE(Frizzers @ Apr 14 2006, 10:44 AM) *
I have a Brompton and it is GREAT. A little heavy to carry when it's folded, but a great ride and surprisingly fast given its appearance. You often find yourself cruising past people on more professiional looking bikes, much to their annoyance.

They are expsensive, £500, but are gaining in popularity. You see a lot of the trendy Soho-ites with them these days.

And I agree with Megaflop that the re-use of existing pavements is the way forward for cycle lanes. what's more, once built, a cycle lane will need little maintenance.

But how does an investor make money from this alternative transport?

I don't think there's a great deal to be made, myself, until there is a change in attitude up top.

I'd like to know more about this Sinclair bike.


When I was in Copenhagen several years ago there were racks of 'municipal' bikes that I believe you could simply borrow, ride to your destination free of charge and leave in a rank nearby. There was also a proper infrastructure of cycle tracks and traffic control. Presumably someone came along and redistributed them if you got a glut around a popular destination.

The culture in the UK means that these would undoubtedly be stolen or trashed, but musing aloud, I wonder if some entrepreneur could come up with something like a locked rank.

Swipe your credit card to free a bike and deduct £100 from your account. When you return the bike (to anywhere in a network of these holding areas), you reswipe your card and get the £100 recredited to your account, minus a small fee for usage based on time. If the network was extensive enough, the uptake by the public might be sufficent to make the usage fee cheaper than hopping on a bus or tube. This could in turn put pressure on government to improve cycling infrastructure.

Obviously all manner of pitfalls here; would have to streamlined for ease and speed of use; huge initial outlay; automated or manned stations; siting in crowded city locations, etc.

TLM
DrBubb
Juts had a tea with an Englishman who lives in Beijing.

He said that there are electric scooters everywhere. They are quiet, and great for zipping around
in traffic. He cannot understnad why we do not see them in the UK
Cletus
QUOTE(DrBubb @ Apr 14 2006, 12:49 PM) *
Juts had a tea with an Englishman who lives in Beijing.

He said that there are electriv scooters everywhere. They are quiet, and great for zipping around
in traffic. He cannot understnad why we do not see them in the UK


I almost bought one last year, but the range is still so poor. However, they seem to be growing in popularity:

http://www.scootelectric.co.uk/The_Green_Life.aspx

Still prefer the option of running my Honda Dylan on bioethanol that one of these though. Although the Vetrix is looking promising:

http://www.zevltd.com/
DrBubb
Example:


We have four ex-demo Raiders to clear. The model has a range of around 25 miles and is yours for £750, half its launch price. The Raider has a smooth and efficient hub motor, making it especially quiet and relaxing to ride.

- -

I will be in Shanghai for a 8 day visit from a week Monday, and I shall see what is on the street there
Wardrop
Not all folders are expensive. Mine, although fairly basic, cost me €99 second hand.

Folded


Unfolded


A single gear in spanish city traffic keeps it fun, and is fine for the stop start nature of most journeys when using the city's cycle lanes, but any long straight can lead to some embarassment.

I've seen a lot of bromptons round here - love the mechanism.

Having done some longer cycle commutes in the past, cycle lanes weren't much help to me, but having changing and parking facilities at work would have improved my lot rather more, and I suspect been rather more cost effective.

Maybe we should look at what cycle facilities can be shared by other commuting forms, eg. Trip end facilities such as parking and changing are useful for scooter and motorcycle users, roller bladers and pedestrians/PT users.

Wardrop
HollandPark
Has anyone looked to see the prices of folding bicycles on Ebay?

Bromptons are a particular interest
Cuthbert Calculus
I haven't checked lately, but Bromptons don't come up that often and when they do, they go for quite a lot.

Go on, treat yourself. Buy a new one. They really are very good. If I could, I'd buy the company!
DrBubb
Will Clive Sinclair's new folding bike work?

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The bike has been developed by the inventor’s company, Sinclair Research, at a laboratory in south London, and is being manufactured in China by a Hong Kong-based firm called Daka.

“It’s for people using planes, trains, buses and boats,” said a company source. “It’s not a replacement for your normal bike, it’s for the starting part and end bit of the commute.”

Sinclair believes that the bike will also appeal to people seeking “greener” modes of transport and those who have had bicycles stolen in the past. Its light weight and size when folded mean that it can be taken inside a shop or cafe, making it less vulnerable to thieves. It can also be fitted under a desk or in a locker.

@: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2114327,00.html


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Matt Seaton ... Monday April 3, 2006 / The Guardian

Well, he certainly thinks so. Sir Clive expects to sell 100,000 of his A-bikes in the first year after its launch in July. But the visionary entrepreneur's record of success is so mixed that predictions are tricky. Will the A-bike be a technological triumph, like Sinclair's revolutionary electronic calculator and Spectrum computer? Or will it turn out a well-intentioned turkey, like the C5 - Sinclair's three-wheeled electric buggy, which proved to be a spectacular flop and cost its inventor millions?



Let's take a closer look. There's a lot Sinclair gets right: the A-bike weighs only 12lb (little more than half most bikes); its chain is completely enclosed (so no more trousers ruined by grease marks); and it folds up in 15 seconds (whereas most folding bikes demand an NVQ in mechanical engineering). So maybe the A-bike is just what urban commuters - the park-and-ride crowd or rush-hour train travellers - need. Sinclair might just have cracked it.
But hold on: if this is a bike, where are the wheels? Oh, those are the wheels. I'm sorry to sound a bit trad, but aren't six-inch wheels for scooters? There is a practical difficulty here: small wheels tend to fall down holes and not climb out of them. The ride of the A-bike on anything less smooth than, say, a snooker table is likely to be bone-jarring at best. And when I last looked, our city streets were not paved with green baize. Sinclair's ingenuity is admirable, but trying to improve such a successful technology as the bicycle is like, well, reinventing the wheel.

The biggest problem, though, is not practical but aesthetic. Sinclair's transport contraptions always look as if they have been put together from the parts bin of the BBC workshops where they build the Daleks. Will anyone be seen dead riding one of these? Most people will work hard to avoid becoming a laughing stock. Sadly, Sir Clive does not seem to have the same threshold of social embarrassment as most people.

@: http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1745481,00.html


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News - "Uncle" Clive Sinclair finally makes the portable bike he was always planning to...
By Guy Kewney Posted on 08/07/2004 at 18:44
Twelve years ago, when Sir Clive first told me about his portable bicycle, which ended up being marketed as the Zike, it wasn't quite as daft as it turned out. It didn't have an electric motor. It sold only about two thousand units - at five hundred pounds each, you can see why. But now, he's fixed the problem.

The newest Zike is to be found at the other end of the alphabet; the "A-Bike" and this time, it really is portable.


The inspiration for it was Sinclair's discovery that new fibres with virtually zero stretch meant that the whole drive and control mechanism would snap into place when the thing unfolded, while remaining incredibly light weight.

His plan (he said at the time - 1992) was to have something people carried around on their arm like an umbrella. "You'd be able to take it into the train even if they had a 'no bicycles' policy," he enthused. Originally, the plan was to have a bike in the shape of the letter "X" which folded up like a child's buggy, and it was therefore called the X-Bike, or Xike. That got changed to Zike (trade-mark reasons?) at launch.

But he couldn't resist the lure of electronics; and when the thing surfaced, it weighed a ton - battery, electronic motor and all - and cost a fortune.

The A-Bike is - according to Reuters, the world's smallest and lightest folding bike (or so says Sinclair!) and the picture (courtesy Reuter) shows that Sir Clive himself (admittedly, a keen amateur athlete) has no problems holding it in one hand.

But apparently, the lure of electricity cannot be resisted. This bike costs $300 ( just over £150 sterling ) which is probably more than the average Singapore worker would think of spending on two wheels with pedals.

Meanwhile, if you actually have a genuine Zike, take out insurance. They are rare, collectors' items, but worth astonishingly little right now - with Planet Sinclair estimating a price of around a hundred pounds sterling, or more. Another ten years, and they could be VERY pricey items.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The original, black and white, Zike


We did ask Sir Clive when he was going to launch in the UK. We rang his London office and got his cheerful urbane voice. It said: "This is Sinclair Research..." and asked us to leave a message after the tone.

The tone came; followed - just as we were taking breath - by the words: "Memory Full" in a truculent female voice. He must really be in Singapore...

@: http://www.kewney.co.uk/articles/040708-zike.html
halebop
what about electric bikes ?
whatever happened to them .
i personnally think theres more oppurtunity for investment returns along these lines
esp with the latest battery technology i:e. nihm /nicad
there again what do i know? smile.gif
the don
i am a big cycing fan.
i cycled to work regularly when lived in sussex-about 10 miles each way and some hills.
i became very fit and my wife noticed how de-stressed i was when i got home at night,.
unfortunately i got promoted to a job with a company car and lots of travelling.

i have visited holland lots of times and remain impressed with the high take up of cycling .
the relatively flat contours and investment in cycleways makes a big difference.

here- we are pretty half hearted abput supporting cycling.
it should be national policy to install effective cycleways through all towns/ cities. the costs are probably small beer and the payback will be enormous.
what if the kids could cycle to school instead of travelling in mums people carrier?
heathier kids nad less co2 emmissions
i would volunteer to be cycling tsar-i would do it for nothing.
Cuthbert Calculus
i would volunteer to be cycling tsar-i would do it for nothing.

ME TOO.
DrBubb
Perhaps we should have a new category of member:


"Tsar"
notanewmember
the A-bike does have small wheels!

Another problem, there is very little coasting ability - i.e. ride a bit then coast along freewheeling, as this saves a lot of energy! It more of a gimick rather than having a practical use IMO - speaking from a heavy user of bikes.

Folding bikes: i got a Seasure folding bike for the "yachtsman" though i don t have a yacht. It is compact, light, and cheap! (£120 - wont be eyed by thieves as bad) It has 6 gears which use a deraileur - no fiddling with geared hubs! It fits easily into a hatchback car. Its light too for a steel framed bike. On the bad side is the brakes! They arent as good as mountain bike V-brake ones! Nor is it suitable for really tall people. But suits me wink.gif Link - http://chandlery.yachtinguniverse.com/product.php/503/0/

Ridgeback, and Dahon also are high end folding bikes worth mentioning on this thread - i did have a Dahon helios P8 aluminium folding bike, but it was just too nice for me to ride!
megaflop
A bike doesn't have to be a folding-into-a-matchbox marvel.

Just any bike would be an improvement for most people.
Member100
It's a funny world...

The Chinese are moving from bikes to cars,
and here we are talking about giving up cars for bikes

Is a role reversal coming?
Nijo
I don't think Londoners are ready for bikes yet. We need to educate them.
http://www.lcc.org.uk/
http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk/

I sold my car recently and now have two bikes - a Brompton for work and an old mountain bike for weekends. I took that mountain bike on the circle line on Easter Monday (you are specifically allowed bikes on the circle line, and some other lines outside that, even at rush hour).

I got some nasty looks from other passengers as if I were doing something wrong!
No6
QUOTE(DrBubb @ Apr 16 2006, 11:43 PM) *
Will Clive Sinclair's new folding bike work?

But hold on: if this is a bike, where are the wheels? Oh, those are the wheels. I'm sorry to sound a bit trad, but aren't six-inch wheels for scooters? There is a practical difficulty here: small wheels tend to fall down holes and not climb out of them. The ride of the A-bike on anything less smooth than, say, a snooker table is likely to be bone-jarring at best. And when I last looked, our city streets were not paved with green baize. Sinclair's ingenuity is admirable, but trying to improve such a successful technology as the bicycle is like, well, reinventing the wheel.

The biggest problem, though, is not practical but aesthetic. Sinclair's transport contraptions always look as if they have been put together from the parts bin of the BBC workshops where they build the Daleks. Will anyone be seen dead riding one of these? Most people will work hard to avoid becoming a laughing stock. Sadly, Sir Clive does not seem to have the same threshold of social embarrassment as most people.


And there you have it. The Sinclair C5 was going to revolutionize transport as well.

DrBubb
Based upon their look, I always thought they would revolutionise bathtubs
Guest
Judging by their product range Daka, the makers of the a-bike, seem like an off-shoot from Amstrad:

http://www.daka-designs.com/relations/
malco
QUOTE(Frizzers @ Apr 12 2006, 07:34 PM) *
Cars and bikes do not mix and they should be kept apart. Everyone would be happier, safer and better off. As a motorist, I hate cyclists and as a cyclist, I hate cars. Sorry. Rant over)
Your thoughts, l and g.


I am a bit surprised by your attitudes about road riding. All serious studies I am aware of show that "cyclists fare best when they act and are treated as drivers of vehicles" [to quote John Forester, see http://johnforester.com]. Riding in the road with other traffic is the usually safest way to cycle. There is a good list of research on this issue at:

http://www.lesberries.co.uk/cycling/infra/infra.html

The main problem is probably that you have never been trained in Cyclecraft, so you don't understand how to integrate with motor traffic. I ride on the roads always for preference and found the "safe" cycle paths of Denmark to be a damned nuisance.

Sorry to be hard on you, but I get tired of the attitude that cycling with traffic is "dangerous", coming from people who have no training, when the facts repeatedly show that it is a low risk activity. So does my experience. I do not regard city riding as dangerous, it's a piece of p1ss if you know what you are doing. In Britain pedestrians face higher risks per mile travelled than cyclists, for instance. I feel more scared in a car than I do on my bike. My instincts are correct. Even in Britain, if you are in a road accident serious enough to be reported by the Police, you are more likely to be killed in a car than on a bicycle.

I would see the main obstacle to cycling as mass transport in Britain is the myth that it is "dangerous". Ironically, cycling gets safer as it gets more popular, so the myth about danger is very much a self-fulfilling prophecy. Sad but true.

There won't be any major cycling revival in this country until cyclists themselves portray cycling in a realistic way.
malco
This is a good article in The Independent about how to get started in cycling:

http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/article770435.ece

This is actually a pretty well balanced article, especially about how important road position is, and eshewing "dashing for the gaps".
DrBubb
Fr.,
For the Header perhaps?



A sign of leadership? Or just a fading fad?
Cuthbert Calculus
Get that in the header!

So much is he the new Tony Blair!
Cuthbert Calculus
My bike got nicked tonight.

It was locked outside my local sation, Earlsfield, where I have been leaving it for the last two years.

Get that in your photo, Cameron.
JBFTI
You have to wonder where all the nicked bikes end up. I had one nicked from the lobby of the flats I was living in some 5-6 years ago, never heard of it again.

That Sinclair thing makes me think immediately of one thing - a camera tripod! tongue.gif
DrBubb
In my many years in London, I had a bike stolen on average every 2-3 years. And I took reasonable precautions to keep them safe
Guest
QUOTE(JBFTI @ Jul 3 2006, 03:03 PM) *
You have to wonder where all the nicked bikes end up.


Usually they end up being sold by winos, addicts, and so forth at the dog end of street markets. The dog market on Sundays towards the top end of Brick Lane is a good bet.
DrBubb
..

A-bike : Price: £199.99
Invented by Sir Clive Sinclair, A-bike is the result of a five year research and development project by his team at Sinclair Research. "...the idea is if you had a bicycle which was seriously lighter and more compact than anything existing at the moment, it would change the way in which people saw bikes."

So named, because of its ‘A’ like shape in use, this original styled A-bike feels very much like a normal bike to ride. However unlike other folding bikes it can be slipped easily into a bag while you hop on the tube, train, bus, or even a plane.

For further product information and to buy an A-bike, please visit our Distributor's web site:
http://www.a-bike.co.uk
malco
The man is an imbecile - he should stick to designing computers, which he does appear to have a talent for. His vehicle designs without exception show complete lack of common sense about the real world road environment. Who in their right mind would ride a bike with wheels the size of furniture castors? Fine for riding around a gymnasium, pretty bad news riding in the streets of any city.

It constantly amazes me the failure to see that the traditional road bike with 700C or 27" wheels is as good as it gets for city riding. The big wheels can roll over most pot holes and the high position lets you see across the traffic and improves your own visibility. The Moulton is possibly an exception - they are supposed to be very efficient, despite the small wheels. People have ridden the Paris-Brest-Paris on them, so they must be pretty good.

This Sinclair contraption is most likely to bankrupt him via lawsuits from injured cyclists.
Misfit
Agree about the Sinclair contraption. It wouldn't survive a mile on most roads. The Sinclair Spectrum was my first computer and I thank him for that. The next device I tried of his was an ebike kit called the Zeta II which was complete rubbish and very embarrassing. I've built my own ebikes since and follow some of the ebike groups to pick up tips/news. The number of members/posts is growing rapidly and I've noticed a lot more people on cheap chinese ebikes buzzing around town recently. There is also a growing sub culture of ebike modding (similar to car/computer modding). The barrier to mainstream take up seems to be the cost/safety of light weight batteries. If this is solved then the market for ebikes could be massive. One company in particular seems to be almost there http://www.a123systems.com/html/home.html. See http://www.atob.org.uk/Electric_Buyers'_Guide.html for a no hype guide to street legal ebikes.
DrBubb
The wheels are too small.

Even the gaps and uneven levels of sidewalks could create problems.

Back to the drawing board perhaps?
Whosthedaddy?
QUOTE(DrBubb @ Jul 20 2006, 07:47 AM) *
The wheels are too small.

Even the gaps and uneven levels of sidewalks could create problems.

Back to the drawing board perhaps?


Completely agree, though I think Sir Clives' drawing board needs a look at, if it's taken 5 years of research to come up with this nonsense. Does this guy have an endless supply of funds to fritter away designing rubbish huh.gif
DrBubb
The A-Bike website says this...

Sinclair Research
A-bike is the result of a five-year research and development programme by Sir Clive Sinclair and his team at Sinclair Research. Sir Clive explains “The idea is that if you can have a bicycle that is seriously lighter and more compact than anything that exists at the moment, it will change the way people see bikes. The principle use for the A-bike is city or town travel over relatively short journeys but also very much for mixed-mode journeys where you’re hopping on and off a bus or a train. We envisage A-bike as the ideal solution for people who need to travel first from A to B and then later from C to D.For example a typical commuter needs to get from home to local station and then from destination to his or her office – and all without any worries about portability, parking or security.”

“The key to its successful introduction,” adds chief designer, Alex Kalogroulis, “is an entirely fresh approach to the main challenge: how to minimise weight and optimise foldability while retaining full functionality. At the heart of the solution are light, highly-reliable telescopic tubes coupled with telescoping brake cables. Furthermore, the A-bike uses a glass reinforced engineering composite, normally found in high-end applications, along with custom-designed brakes to allow complete foldability.”

...and also...

Q: The wheels are quite small – is the A-bike easy to ride?

A: Yes – the use of a dynamically geared twin chain system enables users to pedal normally and retain their balance. In addition the high performance 90psi pneumatic tyres allow for a smooth and comfortable ride on most hard surfaces. The size of the wheels is of course one of the key factors in making the bike so lightweight and compact.

= =

I disagree.
How will it cope with potholes, and uneven surfaces?
IMHO, they need to at least Double the size of the wheels. Perhaps one of them could be made detachable, to make it easier to pack
bob monkhouse
Whatever happened to that American device...you stand on it and lean in the direction you want to go in...looked pretty cool...


...for anyone interested in cycling, I recommend making an effort to go to Edale or Castleton in the peak district...has someone beautifal tracks around there.
Whosthedaddy?
QUOTE(bob monkhouse @ Jul 22 2006, 11:42 AM) *
Whatever happened to that American device...you stand on it and lean in the direction you want to go in...looked pretty cool...


Do you perhaps refer to the Segway? http://www.segway.com/

Another bonkers idea I reckon, but it does look like fun.....for a short while anyway wink.gif
malco
Re the A-bike, I wonder if they will try to sell it in America, where litigation following the obvious hazards of the small wheels will destroy them.

But then again, someone produced this Segway muppetville thingy. It's all about denying that the humble bike ridden sensibly on the public highway is as good as it gets. Imagine if people denied that walking upright was best... you'd get people lurching about purple-faced on their hands and scuffling about on their hands and knees. This stupid denial is such a waste of time.

"Learn to ride a bicycle; you will not regret it." - Mark Twain.

"Cyclists fare best when they act and are treated as drivers of vehicles." - John Forrester.
webmaster
The Segway is a joke.


Ploddingly slow, awkward- a mere novelty.
You can get there easier by walking.

I reckon it was designed with the mission of making fat Americans fatter
DrBubb
Here's another user review on the A-Bike...

EXCERPT // Clive Sinclair's A-Bike: my first ride
. . .
The good stuff: it' surprisingly fast, especially considering it's a single speed bike - there are no gears - and has tiny wheels the size of a supermarket trolley's. It's also fairly stable, the brakes are pretty firm and Clive & co's kindly included a bell. All very civilized.

You're meant to be able to fold and unfold the bike in 10 seconds, but we're still coming in at just under a minute at the moment - mainly because whenever someone has to fold it, they're under the pressure of half a dozen pairs of eyes. It packs down to a bag roughly the size of a large tennis racket and weighs similar to a typical laptop.

The bad: the saddle's remorselessly hard and it feels like it'd probably get tiring cycling for any serious distance. That, of course, is not the point. This is a bike for hopping from pub to pub, cutting the journey from home to train station and other short trips round town.
. . .
@: http://thegreenguy.typepad.com/thegreenguy..._sinclairs.html

= =

Here's one they sell in HK for just over £200



@:
Cuthbert Calculus
Bring me one back.
chas and dave
Those small wheels look horrendous, but on a general question about bikes, left over from childood, can one hand-pump tyres to 90psi?

On another, do people think these forward stop zones for cyclists at traffic lights are good for the road environment?
beerhunter
QUOTE(Whosthedaddy? @ Jul 22 2006, 03:07 PM) *
Do you perhaps refer to the Segway? http://www.segway.com/

Another bonkers idea I reckon, but it does look like fun.....for a short while anyway wink.gif


I've seen a few around, but I'm most impressed by the keyboard player of Rammstein (a German rock/metal band) who has a keyboard strapped to the "handlebar" of his Segway and wonders around the stage as he plays blink.gif

QUOTE(DrBubb @ Aug 31 2006, 05:09 AM) *
Here's another user review on the A-Bike...


For me there a fundumental flaw with these... with such small wheels (see www.sinclairc5.com/a-bike.htm) as soon as you hit any pothole you'll go over the handle bars.

QUOTE(chas and dave @ Sep 1 2006, 02:12 PM) *
Those small wheels look horrendous, but on a general question about bikes, left over from childood, can one hand-pump tyres to 90psi?


Yes.. I pump up the tyres on my Dawes Galaxy to just over 90psi (they are rated at 95psi, but I allow a bit of margin). You'll need a proper solid track pump to make it easier/possible... the one I use is capable of upto 120psi blink.gif

QUOTE(chas and dave @ Sep 1 2006, 02:12 PM) *
On another, do people think these forward stop zones for cyclists at traffic lights are good for the road environment?


Not really... I fear they encourage cyclists to move forward inside stationary traffic, which is fine until it starts moving again.. you don't want to be stuck next to a big truck that hasn't seen you and is around to turn left across you.

Personally if its a short stationary queue, I'll queue like any other vehicle. If it's a long queue, I'm very cautious of people opening doors, turning round.. so approach at a low speed and when I see the lights about to change, I'll stop so that the driver just behind me has time to notice I'm there.
Whosthedaddy?
QUOTE(chas and dave @ Sep 1 2006, 02:12 PM) *
Those small wheels look horrendous, but on a general question about bikes, left over from childood, can one hand-pump tyres to 90psi?

On another, do people think these forward stop zones for cyclists at traffic lights are good for the road environment?


You can hand pump tyres to 90+psi but you'll need a 'track pump' which stands on the floor to achieve such pressures and obviously the tyres/tubes have to be able to withstand it too.

something like this....

http://www.evanscycles.com/product.jsp?style=11088

cost between £20-£40 higher price ones come with a pressure guage.

As for advance stop zones, I think are generally a good idea , providing motorists take notice of them. Particularly if turning right at a junction. I certainly 'feel' safer at the lights if im in 'the zone' wink.gif
chas and dave
The older I get, the more frightened I am of cycling on the road - guess just realising that as you get older not everyone is so aware (inc. me), and a few are going to be on drugs and the rest (not me). One dig and you're done. Give me cycle tracks like they had already in Berlin 40 years ago.

Talking of Germany - beerhunter - reise reise & the inflatable boat & the flames
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