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#1 Timm

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Posted 19 May 2017 - 07:45 PM

This thing about the at-home care fees.

 

Has she any idea about the unintended consequences? 

 

If it's deliberate, it could be genius, but if she can't answer the questions that are going to be raised, then the status of the Tories as the economically safe choice - the strong and stable pair of hands - could be replaced by a meme of mayhem and madness.



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Posted 19 May 2017 - 09:53 PM

May can't even chuck the election.There's noone to chuck it to.

 

 



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Posted 22 May 2017 - 08:19 PM

May can't even chuck the election.There's noone to chuck it to.

 

 

 

 

Perhaps, but according to recent polls (cough), Labour are catching up fast.

 

And those polls date from before Strong and Stable turned into Weak and Wobbly.



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Posted 26 May 2017 - 10:21 PM

 

 

Perhaps, but according to recent polls (cough), Labour are catching up fast.

 

And those polls date from before Strong and Stable turned into Weak and Wobbly.

good poll for Corbyn today.Still can't see him in downing st



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Posted 26 May 2017 - 11:30 PM

I heard there are Police everywhere in the UK

 

Is that really "strong and stable"?

Or fearful and authoritarian?


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Posted 27 May 2017 - 07:53 PM

I heard there are Police everywhere in the UK
 
Is that really "strong and stable"?
Or fearful and authoritarian?


Police are working 12 hour shifts and some fairly exhausted by it. You would not believe how thin the blue line is in some towns; straight from the mouths of those that serve.
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Posted 02 June 2017 - 05:19 AM

SO Many Inter-connections.. very hard to unravel them

 

Fascinating speculate from JPF on US / Saudi relationship

 

NEWS AND VIEWS FROM THE NEFARIUM JUNE 1 2017

 

PM May being hurt by possible ties of govt to Manchester bombing?

"The war on Terror has not worked!"

 

"the US & the West need to rethink their relationship with the Saudis"

 

/ 2 /

More about how JPF sees the US Saudi relationship developing

 

NEWS AND VIEWS FROM THE NEFARIUM MAY 25 2017


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Posted 02 June 2017 - 09:11 PM

Police are working 12 hour shifts and some fairly exhausted by it. You would not believe how thin the blue line is in some towns; straight from the mouths of those that serve.

Under May as Home Sec a lot of frontline officers got cut



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Posted 02 June 2017 - 09:12 PM

You'd be amazed how few there are covering a Sat night in places like Nottingham,Leicester,Coventry.



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Posted 02 June 2017 - 09:12 PM

Police are working 12 hour shifts and some fairly exhausted by it. You would not believe how thin the blue line is in some towns; straight from the mouths of those that serve.

Apparently,lots of leave has been cancelled.



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Posted 04 June 2017 - 06:22 AM

How low can she go?

 

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MAY DAY! PM lead cut to just 1 point...


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Posted 05 June 2017 - 07:16 PM

That woman wants to censor the internet.  Vote Labour as a protest against this

 

http://forbiddenknow...ore-fake-vests/

 

Theresa May: London Bridge Attackers Wore Fake Vests and We Have to Regulate the Internet



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Posted 07 June 2017 - 06:18 AM

That woman wants to censor the internet.  Vote Labour as a protest against this
 
http://forbiddenknow...ore-fake-vests/
 
Theresa May: London Bridge Attackers Wore Fake Vests and We Have to Regulate the Internet

surely, better for everyone if she wins.

http://boingboing.ne...ing-canute.html

This, then, is what Theresa May is proposing:

* All Britons' communications must be easy for criminals, voyeurs and foreign spies to intercept

* Any firms within reach of the UK government must be banned from producing secure software

* All major code repositories, such as Github and Sourceforge, must be blocked

* Search engines must not answer queries about web-pages that carry secure software

* Virtually all academic security work in the UK must cease -- security research must only take place in proprietary research environments where there is no onus to publish one's findings, such as industry R&D and the security services

* All packets in and out of the country, and within the country, must be subject to Chinese-style deep-packet inspection and any packets that appear to originate from secure software must be dropped

* Existing walled gardens (like Ios and games consoles) must be ordered to ban their users from installing secure software

* Anyone visiting the country from abroad must have their smartphones held at the border until they leave

* Proprietary operating system vendors (Microsoft and Apple) must be ordered to redesign their operating systems as walled gardens that only allow users to run software from an app store, which will not sell or give secure software to Britons

* Free/open source operating systems -- that power the energy, banking, ecommerce, and infrastructure sectors -- must be banned outright

How is all that not awesome?
energy, banking ecommerce and infrastructure mostly already left for places like ireland anyway. and the big uk hosting providers already share sites encryption keys with the spies and voyeurs.

Its basically just wrapping a law around what is already happening.
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Posted 07 June 2017 - 09:34 AM

That woman wants to censor the internet.  Vote Labour as a protest against this

 

http://forbiddenknow...ore-fake-vests/

 

Theresa May: London Bridge Attackers Wore Fake Vests and We Have to Regulate the Internet

 

After listening to this excellent explanation of the present challenge, and Ms. May's plans, I agree!

 

"MORE multiculturalism is NOT the answer!"

Mark Collett - The London Bridge Terror Attack Was Preventable

 

A Breitbart editor just got fired for tweeting "common sense" - what next if the true fascist, May, takes over

 

Better to face the "devil on the left" - and have the Nationalist parties grow


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Posted 08 June 2017 - 09:15 AM

http://www2.politica...t-ge2017-right/

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No one can accuse the pollsters of herding this time

With just one firm still to publish, Ipsos-MORI for the Standard, the above Wikipedia list looks like the almost final polling table of 2017.

The variation between the firms is simply amazing and unprecedented in any previous general election. One thing is for certain some reputations will be made tonight and some will be trashed.

In many ways I admire the bravery of those pollsters who have not felt the need to follow the main pattern. ICM’s Martin Boon has remained very strong in his defence of his methodology as has Damian Lyons Lowe of Survation – the major firms at opposite ends of the divide.

Reputations are set to be made or broken as the results come in and I admire the strength of character of those not prepared to follow the trend.

This is a sharp contrast with two years ago when Survation refrained from publishing what would have been the most accurate poll of the campaign. They did this for fear that they were so out of line. As it was they had got it almost completely right.

At the other end of the scale is ICM which over the decades had built up a reputation as the gold standard of polling. That was when they were a telephone pollster. Their GE2017 surveys have all been online.

Survation has used both online and phone methodologies at this election producing pretty similar figures.

Given the outcome of the election, a continuation of TMay’s CON government in some form, appears not to be in doubt for election geeks GE2017 is an intriguing battle of what is the best way of surveying political opinion.

Well done to ICM and Survation. You might both be wrong and the answer lies somewhere in the middle but you were both brave enough to stick by your guns.

Mike Smithson



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Posted 08 June 2017 - 10:59 AM

online polling is useless when most of the voting population do not consume much online media and those who are have a very very different perception of the world.

that said, ive not heard of any boundary reversions and the only likely outcome seems to be a further erosion of lib dem support.

May will count that as a victory and quite likely the UK will be offline this time next year. Theyve already been fiddling with the wires in preparation.
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Posted 08 June 2017 - 11:36 PM

HUNG ?

 

Watch Live: UK Election Results - Exit Polls Signal "Catastrophic" Hung Parliament, Pound Plunges

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UK finance minister Osborne says exit polls are "completely catastrophic" for Theresa May and her Conservative Party...

Conservative 314 (12 seats short of majority), Labour 266


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Posted 10 June 2017 - 12:36 PM

And now, having accused Corbyn of sharing a platform with Sinn Fein and therefore being in bed with the IRA, she has now formed an alliance with the DUP and can therefore be accused of being in bed with the UVF. And this while the NI Parliament has been in deadlock, with no executive sine March, with Westminster supposedly acting as arbitrator between the Nationalists and the Unionists.

 

Seriously, she just does stuff at random without thinking.

 

Is she mad?

 

 

 

Edit: At least we know now that she didn't deliberately try and chuck the election. 



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Posted 10 June 2017 - 08:49 PM

And now, having accused Corbyn of sharing a platform with Sinn Fein and therefore being in bed with the IRA, she has now formed an alliance with the DUP and can therefore be accused of being in bed with the UVF. And this while the NI Parliament has been in deadlock, with no executive sine March, with Westminster supposedly acting as arbitrator between the Nationalists and the Unionists.
 
Seriously, she just does stuff at random without thinking.
 
Is she mad?
 
 
 
Edit: At least we know now that she didn't deliberately try and chuck the election.


Could still of been deliberate. Whoever is in charge of the UK (at least on paper) over this period is going to be infamous for most of eternity. I dont see any "winning" for them.

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Posted 10 June 2017 - 10:47 PM

Nothing in politics happens by chance !!






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