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Posted 01 July 2006 - 09:00 PM

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As I told above, I have no desire (and surely no ability) to study the "Plenty of theories around that" in detail. By the way, logically traveling to the past is so much more achievable than to the future; similar to recording and replaying of the information from the past and NOT the future, besides as far as I know if one makes a time machine, (s)he couldn't go back to the times before the time of machine construction. You see?, intuitively affecting on the passed events is very more reasonable on the event not happened yet (future) in our frameworks, but I accept (indeed, I feel) if one could go backward in time, moving forward in time shouldn't be fundamentally forbidden neither ..


Where exactly is the past recorded, other than in the memories of human beings and known or speculated history?

Time travel into the future in theory is possible and much easier. Einstein's "special theory of relativity" showed how time changes with motion. For example, an object traveling at high speeds ages more slowly than a stationary object. This means that if you were to travel into outer space and return, moving close to light speed, you could travel thousands of years into the Earth's future.

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Posted 03 July 2006 - 04:29 PM

My view is that Time Travel is impossible,
but traveling forward in time at different speeds is possible
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Posted 04 July 2006 - 12:46 PM

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Of course I do! B) However I think my work can be called (start of) a new branch of science, or actually a novel kind of engineering. I mean if the Eq. (7) could cause to a physical distance reduction in a smooth manner, one could compare its relation to the general relativity (and the used quantum effects) with the relation of telephone or TV to the waves physics. I guess the initial samples of the equipments would be as big as an accelerator that requires huge amounts of funding. :o
Indeed, my plan - with no exaggeration - would change the face of the world in an incredible manner. At the moment, I've got aware of possibility of participating in two forthcoming conferences to present my new findings, but not a formal invitation yet. Let me see what would happen about them. If I could come to the west in a definite time, I'd surely start the affairs related to commercializing of my idea, like anyone else. I've studied the rules from http://www.uspto.gov so I know the opportunities and dangers of this process ...
BUT if (a vital if), I'd feel they're wasting the time too much, I'd naturally take some unpleasant interpretations, thus I'd seriously think about some dangerous games. Remember I do live in place where the patent and copyright are no more than jokes, with no U.S. embassy, and totally, the circumstances which have made Iran a hot subject of the news. I've been enough unlucky who was born here, but if I'd use of my brain I could convert this unchangeable fact to a unique luckiness. ;)
Besides, I don't think I could compare myself to Sir Clive Sinclair; unfortunately - regarding the present conditions of the world - there are so many discrepancies between he (actually, all you, in general) and me which might seem we live in two quite different fronts (even two different planets at all!! :lol: )
Let me not explain more, but in the some next days my new reply to this forum would be good news about getting everything OK, or an unforgettable manuscript with the title of "

When a conspiracy theory could come true

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No6,

I agree with you to some extent, however natural continuing of the conversation between you and me would need saying much philosophy, and the logical principles of the TOE (theory of everything), plus some of its mathematical details where are under investigation by many researcher of the fields like (super)string theory, quantum gravity, novel branches of the advanced mathematics and other related regions.
By the way, you're right about the special relativity, but when I began to read the relativity for FTL purposes, I disappointed of the usability of the relativistic velocities for a spacecraft, due to the factors like (inertial) mass increasing, and length reduction, along with the terrible practical difficulties of controlling of such a spaceship through the starts, planets, asteroids, cosmic dust, etc.

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Posted 04 July 2006 - 03:31 PM

"Let me not explain more, but in the some next days my new reply to this forum would be good news about getting everything OK"

THIS is very cryptic to me
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Posted 04 July 2006 - 08:35 PM

No6,

I agree with you to some extent, however natural continuing of the conversation between you and me would need saying much philosophy, and the logical principles of the TOE (theory of everything), plus some of its mathematical details where are under investigation by many researcher of the fields like (super)string theory, quantum gravity, novel branches of the advanced mathematics and other related regions.
By the way, you're right about the special relativity, but when I began to read the relativity for FTL purposes, I disappointed of the usability of the relativistic velocities for a spacecraft, due to the factors like (inertial) mass increasing, and length reduction, along with the terrible practical difficulties of controlling of such a spaceship through the starts, planets, asteroids, cosmic dust, etc.


Well, being right on the question of special relativity should not be that difficult, considering that it is proven fact that time travel to the future is possible via this method, although it is a one way ticket. This has been measured in the laboratory and on location using atomic clocks, aircraft, satellites and rockets. It is proven that time slows down the faster you move.

In 1975, Professor Carrol Alley tested Einstein's theory using two synchronised atomic clocks. Carol loaded one clock onto a plane, which was flown for several hours, while the other clock remained on the ground. At the end of its flight, the clock on the plane was slightly behind the one on the ground. Time had actually slowed down for the clock on the plane. It had travelled forward in time.

http://www.abc.net.a...les/default.htm

As for the elusive TOE (theory of everything), which a number of physicists seem to think we are getting closer to. Any TOE that does not include human consciousness is worthless IMHO.

The "presentist" view

Some theorists have argued that the matter of the universe only exists in the present moment. Thus, if one were to travel back from the 'present' to an earlier time, none of the material universe would be found there, because it will have remained in the present: the traveller alone is the only part of the universe to have gone back to the earlier time. In terms of a 4-dimensional spacetime, the traveller (or, more generally the atomic particles that comprise the traveller) would have travelled 'back' to an area of spacetime corresponding to an earlier value of 't'; but none of the other particles that form the universe will have done so, so the traveller finds precisely nothing when arriving back at the earlier time. This viewpoint eliminates all of the supposed paradoxes about time travel.

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Time_travel

So, either the universe has some recording mechanism of the past built into it, probably at the quantum level, or the only possibility of time travel to the past is via the multiverse, the many-worlds interpretation. This would involve extra-dimensional travel where past times might still exist. Highly speculative and still largely science fiction than science fact.

I'm surprised that zero point energy hasn't come up again.

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 05:38 PM

No6,

a very cool interpretation that is close to my feelings too; however this goddamn math does not understand our feelings. I'd like to discuss to you and others about this matter in the following, but for now 'm gonna draw your attention to this conversation and I ask of all the guys here to leave their comments about this:

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The story begins from the time I requested of a guy to write about my work in his website and he replied:

Orstio:

I'm sorry, but I don't think you would appreciate any message I would post on the subject. A few "red flags" that I see are as follows:

1) You cite americanantigravity.com, which is a well-known crank site.

http://www.crank.net/antigravity.html

2) You cite http://www.stardrivedevice.com, which is also another crank site.

3) In your paper, you state:


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It is clear that if a method of faster than light (FTL) travels would be discovered, its most natural consequences, such as contact to probable intelligent entities & colonizing the earth-like planets, could solve many problems of human race [1].

Which is an extraordinary claim. "Intelligent entities" are not necessarily probable (it is quite probable that there are no intelligent entities. There is no current evidence of any intelligent entities outside of our little planet). Colonizing Earth-like planets also does not necessarily solve "many problems of the human race."

What really troubles me about the claim is not the extraordinance, it is the reference in the footnote:


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[1] In my view, TWs (even if we do not consider the possibility of converting them to real nightmare for present knowledge, science & logic, i.e., time machines) could have the deepest effects on philosophic & sociologic discussions of the relation between technology, human rights, ethics, etc. Also, it’s trivial if their applications for FTL or rapid travels would be global, just an international agreement can regularize their usage. See mansouryar.com/whyftl.htm

Which means you've taken an extraordinary unsubstantiated claim, and used an essay you wrote yourself as validation for that claim.

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Even if within researching on FTL methods of communication, the related by-products could lead to rapid (not necessarily FTL) ways of transporting humans or things, that situation would be so profitable too [2].

Again, an unsubstantiated claim. It is not yet even certain that anything to do with space travel can ever be profitable. If we use only the historical data (which would be the scientific way to do it, yes?), we could assume that in fact there has never been anything profitable out of space travel, and projecting that into the future, we could say that there also will never be anything profitable from it. So, again, your statement is an extraordinary claim, which, again, you back up with:


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[2] Obviously, communications with reducing the path would be most revolutionary; See mansouryar.com/investment.htm

Yet another citation to your own opinion.

5) Regardless of the unscientific nature of the above statements, it is also apparent that neither of the above statements is even scientifically relevant. The first is mainly philosophical, and the second is aimed at profitability. Neither of those are scientifically relevant concepts, so should not be included in any scientific work.

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All that said, I'm not going to argue the science or mathematics behind it. You may very well be correct in your equations and thought processes.

It is the methodology of your work that I find questionable, not necessarily the subject matter.

Frankly, I am shocked that any scientist wanting a positive and reputable response would ever cite work from americanantigravity.com or stardrivedevice.com. Even if you are not a crank, doing that is a quick and easy method of getting yourself labelled as one.

I hope that you find this criticism constructive. I wish you luck.

Me:

Hi Orstio,

Thank you so much for the reply. (You see?, I'm not so selfish you've thought). Surely, such serious criticisms would help me to improve my ideas. Now let me explain you some points:

First of all, I'm not a scientist and consequently a physicist. I'm just a guy with a big idea who likes the engineering plans. So I don't evaluate the totality of a website. Those two ones you mentioned are tribunes for introducing my work to laypeople. Indeed, the project of building a practical spacewarp is so complicated which would require much collaboration from many experts in the various fields of physics, math, engineering, etc. I can compare it to building a huge accelerator, in the first generation of them. As you see, I never used the words, antigravity (except once referred to a famous journal) or stardrive. I did my best to use formal literature and prestigious references and when I would see the first paper written based on mine by known author(s), that would be my first "real" success in the theoretical division. At the moment, I'm in contact to some experts and they've informed me they're now working on my paper. But I bet nobody hates to be appreciated by the others. Therefore, the basic victory would be when I see my paper in the formal literature of the mainstream of scientific investigations.
I'm now working on another one for a conference in the U.S. in the current September which is a peer reviewed one. A little patience would clarify many things. Besides, there are many wired claims which I don't waste my time to thinking about them. Certainly, I have my own personal beliefs (e.g., I have an essay in Persian discussing on the levitation of a human by a special style of breathing along with the essential concentration, like what some Indian fakirs do), but when I present a claim, I have to behave like a normal theorist.

.. "Intelligent entities" are not necessarily probable .. solve "many problems of the human race."..

Come on man! The subject "probable" answers this flaw. When something is probable - in my view - that's in the 50-50 state of being existent. If you don't believe in living species in other planets, you should prove it; in a rigorous mathematical point of view. However, I think if we could detect (or be detected!) a civilization more advanced than us, and dare to contact to them, we'd be able to ask them many technical discoveries, then the human race would improve very rapidly in a short interval of time, of course if that'd be done reasonably.
By the way, have you thought if Mars or one of the satellites of Saturn would be colonized, that would possibly reduce the population of the earth, and when you have less population, you could mange them for doing the growing (improvement) programs, couldn't you? I know that's a controversial matter and I'm not an expert in politics or sociology, but I try to be optimist.
As a funny scenario, the U.N. could appropriate any planet to different groups of people due to racial, linguistic or religious affiliations to avoid of such a numerous conflicts or wars on the earth as we observe it now!
Beside, if one considers say twenty billions of people as the population of some spheres of the solar system, along with a suitable communicational system between them, that would cause a great mental consequence, in my eyes. I mean "extending of the (civilized) world". Thus, one could say: There is always a job for me, there is always a good physician for my illness, a better place for living or pleasure, a higher chance of finding a true fried, etc; also among more numbers of humans the probability of finding one like Edison or Einstein who attend to solve the pains of humanity is higher, but unfortunately, that's similar for appearing mad criminals like Hitler or Bin Laden.
You know Orstio, almost any innovation has been created for a more peaceful world, but that might be applied in a wrong way, e.g., inventing the automobile has caused many benefits for people, but on the other hand, so far many ones have been killed in the car crashes too. I think we have only two ways, or accept the modernism and always attempt to improve it, or deny it completely, the third way would be ended up to fundamentalism.

.. you've taken an extraordinary unsubstantiated claim, and used an essay you wrote yourself as validation for that claim ..

I think generalizing the present way of transferring the analog or digital data to the goods or humans has many benefits and it's trivial! But anyway, if the terms in my website really troubles you, please introduce me another essay for referring and I'd take it into account in the future.

.. we could assume that in fact there has never been anything profitable out of space travel..

I agree with you to some extent. Unfortunately, many actions in that field - initiated from the Cold War - were expensive propaganda. In that direction, I don't like NASA policies and I think Americans should reconsider about their tax dollars for it; anyway, that's none of my business. However, I believe if private sector wants to invest, we should be happier and more hopeful, the reason is clear: no independent investor wants to waste his (her) money to show a fictitious thing like in the atmosphere of the Cold War.

.. and projecting that into the future, we could say that there also will never be anything profitable from it ..

Stop dude! Don't compare previous bad things to next useful ones.

.. Neither of those are scientifically relevant concepts, so should not be included in any scientific work ..

I told you: I'm not scientist, but they can't ignore my ideas, we'd see it in a close future!

.. You may very well be correct in your equations and thought processes ..

Be sure of it! Although, perfect calculations are too hard and I insist on going based on experiments.

.. I am shocked that any scientist wanting a positive and reputable response would ever cite work from americanantigravity.com or stardrivedevice.com. Even if you are not a crank, doing that is a quick and easy method of getting yourself labelled as one..

As I explained above, please take it easy. I cite above links for introducing my paper to laypeople like you. In my correspondence to the experts, of course I use the technical language.

As the last remark, I again thank you for your attention. It's quite your decision to make a post on my work or not. But if you are interested to do it (e.g., showing the basic idea and outlines of the paper in your taste or making guess about its effect for space exploring or so), I'm ready to help you and answer any related question. Please don't forget I'd really appreciate any post by you, because in my view that would help to present my work to more numbers of people and perhaps leading to change the face of the world in a more ethical and more pleasant manner, that's a dream I'm deeply believe in it.

Cheers,
Mammad

Astronuc:

Well, Theo, Mammad is certainly exhuberant.

I guess the best way to handle this is firmly and mildly.

Not being a scientist or physicist or engineer is problematic. IMO,it means that Mammad lacks necessary discipline and care with respect to developing scientific ideas. But how to convey that nicely.

Certainly, the ramifications of essentially unlimited travel without significant cost are profound.

I asked MM if he had proposed this to NASA (NIAC) and they apparently scoffed at the idea.

So, I hope we can find a way to temper his enthusiasm while keeping him calm.

Me:

Hi Astronuc,

What's going on? Is everything OK? I hope so.
Please don't forget that I'm still waiting to see a post on my work by YOU! Indeed, something like the blogs I sent you.

Cheers,
Mammad

Astronuc:

Hey Mohammad,

I have been out of my office at several meetings and conferences during the last two weeks.

I still haven't forgotten you TW theory.

One question I would have is the energy required to generate such a phenomenon. This must be related to the field energy density.

May I ask what is your background?

With warmest regards,

Astronuc

Me:

Hi Astronuc,

Thanks for the reply. Now let's deal with your question. In spite of what is generally being thought by the laypeople about the required energy of a traversable wormhole in cosmic magnitudes, recent theories have shown that the exotic matter needed to create and stabilize a TW could be in minor and achievable amounts. I've used some peer-reviewed ones as my references and I can suggest you to take a glance to e.g., the abstracts of the papers written by Peter Kuhfittig. For instance, see:

http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0401048
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0207057
http://www.npl.washi...AV/altvw99.html

All previous models suffer from serious limiting features but my model has no known drawback. Indeed, I can claim my paper has severely decreased the researches on the traversable (Lorentzian) wormholes field. You could check this fact out by comparing the rate of e-prints releasing about this subject before and after submitting my work in the arXiv.org (which covers from 1992-up to now); (in addition) regarding the realities of the academic researching, rapid improving of science and some other statistical factors which you know better than me.
I repeat: be sure of its scientific validity, but if you'd like to provide a more confident (or hotter!) post in Everything-Science.com or otherwise, you could contact (phone seems nicer) to Kuhfittig (http://www.msoe.edu/...php?id=kuhfitti) or Christopher Fewster (http://www-users.york.ac.uk/~cjf3/).
Anyway, I propose you (one reason is, your English is much better than mine ) write about the picture of a world without any serious physical distance for the humans . For example, inventing of the telephone caused the people to send and receive their voices in principal (however the technical problems don't prevent the philosophical issues of its effect on our life, in respect to when there was no telephone at all). Now I encourage you to write your dreams if there would be no "distance" between the points; e.g., a man could to his office in a far country at the morning and backs to his home in another country at the noon! Or radically generalizing it, one could work in a planet and lives in the other would-be-colonized planet …
By the way, looking at the below links might seem cool to you for start (sorry for old news, although these are very well-written with no similar texts on the net):

http://www.npl.washi...AV/altvw33.html
http://www.npl.washi...AV/altvw39.html
http://www.npl.washi...AV/altvw53.html
http://www.npl.washi...AV/altvw69.html
http://www.npl.washi...V/altvw103.html

As a cooler suggestion, maybe watching the movie "Contact" (starring Jodie Foster) or "Stargate" (starring Kurt Russell) would be a good pleasure.

At last, please allow me not to say my backgrounds, that remembers me terrible things . I think a "young theorist" is a nice expression to explain me.

Cheers,
Mammad

P.S.: I hope your post results in preparation of all for a new era, in which we should reconsider about something i.e., cars, planes, ships, trains, etc; also we should consider its terrorist applications , the certain role in what some sociologists call "the gap between north and south countries". The media revolution (as an effective agent) caused decaying of the Soviet Union (Eastern Block, actually), therefore we should expect decaying much bigger structures, if spacewarp communications be realized. By the way, (since I have unbelievably unbearable situations herein ) I hope that (= your would-be attractive post, I guess a (long? ) article, in fact!) would help to motivate an investor or any kind of interested entity to contact me as soon as possible!

What do you think abou the above remarks?

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Posted 06 July 2006 - 12:43 AM

Mammad,

What is it exactly you want to develop? A machine? A process?
How much would it cost?
How would an investor make a profit?

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Posted 07 July 2006 - 02:57 PM

"How much would it cost?
How would an investor make a profit?"

THESE are important questions.
If there is no clear return for "investors", you are not seeking investment, you are seeking charity
The market is "bipolar", swinging back and forth from a focus on Inflation to Deflation. Bet on swings; and stay flexible. What are bipolar markets? See: http://tinyurl.com/GEI-Manix

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Posted 07 July 2006 - 04:44 PM

Ladies & Gentlemen,

I'm not out of my mind. Just give me some time. I'll answer to everything.

Goodbye :(

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Posted 08 July 2006 - 08:02 AM

Just a question from admin or anybody who might know: Is it possible to extend the present topic to the pages more than two? I'm now working on my answers which would be rather long and I see that's odd for the forums, but accept that's not a simple stuff. Untill that time, I'd be glad to read the comments of the guys herein about various aspects of my story.

Mammad :(

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Posted 08 July 2006 - 11:43 AM

the thread will create pages as needed - go ahead
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Posted 10 July 2006 - 09:34 PM

Dr Bubb said:

.........traveling forward in time at different speeds is possible.




If only you had harnessed that potential in 2001 Doc. :)





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Posted 10 July 2006 - 10:00 PM

Lou,
You and some of the Property Bulls are still lost in 2004-
if you think this narrow price rally says something about the UK-wide property market

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 07:43 AM

More on my plans:

In fact, the result of my researches would be a new kind of engineering, maybe I can compare it to the discovery of Thomas Edison (recall the science of electricity before and after that) and establishing the General Electric afterward; or the feat of Bill Gates (recall the area of softwares before and after Windows) and improving his aspirations by Microsoft. At the moment, I need an entity to support my further programs; i.e., a business composed of my idea and their funding. I've much thought if it was possible DARPA would played the role of IBM for me, just as was done for Mr. Gates. I've insisted on collaboration to the military (or less, governmental organizations) in my correspondence with several guys, because there is a less limitation to financially support a project by them. Nowadays, everything is justifiable by the term "protecting of the national security", and that's become more obvious in the post-9/11 era. Further, all we know there is a reserved right for the army of any country to access to the most pioneer findings of the technology, to protect the society. There are many stories (rumors?, conspiracy theory? I don't judge) about the discoveries of Germany experts during the WWII and transferring them to the U.S. (definitely, the anti-gravity devices). Also, all have heard about unconfirmed theories on the unbelievable advancements of the Soviet Union and America in spying methods (and its relevance to the UFO studies) during the Cold War. More recently, we people in the Middle East have talked and imagined on similar innovations, regarding the two wars on Afghanistan and Iraq.
I have no idea on them, and I don't want to appropriate my time to such stuff neither. What I'm sure on it and am in a position to state is: I believe constructing a practical spacewarp is a quite achievable possibility, and that will divide the communication industry to two parts of before and after itself. Since you've read my reply to Astronuc at above, you'd agree that's not an exaggeration at all.
Altogether, I hate to see the fate of such a technology to be a monopoly of a few countries. It's clear this has numerous benefits for all humans and I want to see its influences as soon as possible, regarding the present dangers threatening our beautiful green planet.
For the starting step, I think the fuel companies are suitable options. That comes from present technical circumstances of the model, in addition of the speed of the would-be-created market of it, regarding the dependence of the current economy of the world to the fossil fuels. Now several of them have faced to very satisfying growing of the prices of their items, so they could find a viewpoint to my proposal as a research project, something similar to their attempts to discover unknown oil regions.
Another step could be transferring of the sweet water, mostly in the dry portions. Many people think this would cause much political conflicts at the Middle East and the center and north of Africa, in a near FUTURE, but the sad truth is: the initial parts of this disaster has happened for some years, and the situation is being worsen, due to many factors like technological retarding, governmental corruption, and cultural decline. Unfortunately, despite of all the done efforts and policies of the UN, it seems the most realistic cure scenarios would take place at least after passing of several generations.
Anyway, I'm ready to answer any question about the applications of my theory in any possible case, in the following, but I was supposed to answer: what am I going to do to realize it?
As soon as gathering enough budget, I'd make a team. Members of that team would be experts and technicians in various areas of physics, engineering, mathematics and computer simulation. As once I mentioned I could compare it to building a big accelerator and the only one I know who could unify such branches in direction of a practical spacewarp is (for now) myself. Then we'd start our holy efforts in two main fronts, immediate doing of a few predictions of my papers, specially testing of the core of my model on ANEC violation by an asymmetric perforated cavity made of metallic hydrogen and running intense electric and magnetic fields to give a charge back-reaction to the system. On the other hand, we need exact solving of the equations by a (or more) supercomputer and modelizing of the process by the theory group to help the experimenters. I evaluate we'd be able to perform tests on traversing the gas, oil and water in less than a year and the expenses shouldn't be more than about millions. However, that quite depends on which entity does the job, for example if I'd be contractor (or actually in any legal manner that I could afford) of the U.S. Department of Energy or army or navy, etc, and do the things in a national lab, that would be a huge reduction of the costs; but if a private company decides to launch a completely new lab plus related issues, that would certainly be more expensive. If the experiments goes well, we could start removing the mediation between producer and user of the fuel and water. More exactly, there would be no need to millions of tons and kilometers of pipes throughout the world, and other ones like huge tankers. In that condition, a refinery in say China could receive its raw material directly from Saudi Arabia.
Next phase would result removing of wires and cables (mostly in industrial scales); along with mineral applications, and when all of the above would occurred, by gaining more experiences, the dream approaches to the humanoid applications. Along with doing so, I'd create a special division devoted to study the applications in outer space, definitely colonizing the Mars or Europa (a proper satellite of Saturn).
It's my ideal plan and I'd be thankful to see your advices, comments, critics, guidance and everything about the outlines and/or details ...

Cheers :)

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 09:43 AM

NO CLEAR prospective RETURN, means no investment in our capitalist system, I am afraid.

But you may be able to find a University willing to back research, if you are good at writing grant proposals
The market is "bipolar", swinging back and forth from a focus on Inflation to Deflation. Bet on swings; and stay flexible. What are bipolar markets? See: http://tinyurl.com/GEI-Manix

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 04:02 PM

DrBubb,

I don\'t want to cheat anybody. Also, reaching up to this situation has been a great work of mine. The final economical features of this brand new business relates to expertise of analyzers who know the global needs and implications of the market very better than me. I don\'t claim to know all about such a complicated matter, in contrast to some properties of many Iranians you\'ve probably seen. Up to now, I\'ve only begun the scientific (actually, theoretical) part of the project, and other parts would be respectively the experiments and then commercializing. The being clear as you\'ve thought, certainly needs months of study in many fields. If you need an extreme clearness, you should wait for months or even perhaps, a few years.
By the way, that makes no difference for me the place of start, a university, a company, a spying laboratory or a military installation. Remember the Google was born as a simple proposal in the Stanford university.

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 05:50 PM

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I would say you need a business partner who can help you realise the economic potential of your investments, or a billionaire backer, who will invest on faith. Until you find one of these, I reckon you will be stuck in an academic environment.

The Google guys were lucky. They came around with their idea, when big fortunbes had been made on internet businesses, and so they had an easy time finding Venture Capitalists willing to back their idea. No one has made any money on time travel, apart from some science fiction writers
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Posted 11 July 2006 - 09:30 PM

No one has made any money on time travel, apart from some science fiction writers

I dont think hes talking about time travel.
Hes talking about ehh...space travel - travelling through space.
Or more precisely bending space to make two points come together so that travel between them becomes shorter.

Imagine an A4 page with a dot at the top and bottom.
To get from one to the other you need to move a couple of inches from one to the other.
If however you fold the page in half, the dots are now beside each other and the journey is much shorter.

This is, in theory, possible.
If this guy has a solution either he would be a scientific sensation and/or he would be picked up by an international govt.

I doubt very much that he would be hunting for investors on a website, especially as hes prepared to work for just about anyone....

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Posted 12 July 2006 - 09:10 PM

More on my plans:

As soon as gathering enough budget, I'd make a team. Members of that team would be experts and technicians in various areas of physics, engineering, mathematics and computer simulation. As once I mentioned I could compare it to building a big accelerator and the only one I know who could unify such branches in direction of a practical spacewarp is (for now) myself. Then we'd start our holy efforts in two main fronts, immediate doing of a few predictions of my papers, specially testing of the core of my model on ANEC violation by an asymmetric perforated cavity made of metallic hydrogen and running intense electric and magnetic fields to give a charge back-reaction to the system. On the other hand, we need exact solving of the equations by a (or more) supercomputer and modelizing of the process by the theory group to help the experimenters. I evaluate we'd be able to perform tests on traversing the gas, oil and water in less than a year and the expenses shouldn't be more than about millions. However, that quite depends on which entity does the job, for example if I'd be contractor (or actually in any legal manner that I could afford) of the U.S. Department of Energy or army or navy, etc, and do the things in a national lab, that would be a huge reduction of the costs; but if a private company decides to launch a completely new lab plus related issues, that would certainly be more expensive. If the experiments goes well, we could start removing the mediation between producer and user of the fuel and water. More exactly, there would be no need to millions of tons and kilometers of pipes throughout the world, and other ones like huge tankers. In that condition, a refinery in say China could receive its raw material directly from Saudi Arabia.
Next phase would result removing of wires and cables (mostly in industrial scales); along with mineral applications, and when all of the above would occurred, by gaining more experiences, the dream approaches to the humanoid applications. Along with doing so, I'd create a special division devoted to study the applications in outer space, definitely colonizing the Mars or Europa (a proper satellite of Saturn).
It's my ideal plan and I'd be thankful to see your advices, comments, critics, guidance and everything about the outlines and/or details ...

Cheers :)



How do you know that this hasn't been tried or planned already? As well as NASA, the US spends billions on black projects every year, space, time travel, anti-gravity, whatever you want to call it, it is probably high on that agenda. And how do you protect an idea for time travel? Is it patented? Once the theory is out there and the possible mechanism for making it work is known it's probably already being worked on in some secret facility in the Nevada or Arizona desert. I'm sure they have many projects in the pipeline or going on as we write.

Have a look at Nick Cook's The hunt for Zero Point. A good yarn, if nothing else, but full of interesting stories on the black project world.

"There is real work going on in the USA today on anti-gravity - the most visible of it at NASA, where the space administration is investigating the use of 'impossible science' to develop hardware that will allow a manned spacecraft to journey into deep space before the century is out by travelling at light-speed or even beyond. In the course of researching this story, I discovered and met with a Russian scientist called Podkletnov who has succeeded in 'blocking' gravity with super-conductors. Technically, this is scientific heresy, but Podkletnov is doing it and others aren't far behind. There's a race going on here and the prize is huge: whoever cracks the technology and brings it to market first taps into a potentially limitless energy source and develops an exotic and novel form of propulsion that requires no fuel."

http://www.randomhou...zero_point.html

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Posted 12 July 2006 - 09:34 PM

DrBubb,

Yes, I surely need many partners to realize my plans in making a more pleasant world. Removing (or relaxing) the physical distance is a so much serious affair. That would be a revolution in the capitalist system, for instance in distributions of the goods and delivering the merchandise to the customers, directly. Also, I know some rich guys who like such ideas. For example, Paul Allen (co-founder of Microsoft), Richard Bronson (founder of Virgin Airlines), Anousheh Ansari (main donator of the Ansari-X prize for the first private spaceship). I\'m gonna contact them very soon, what\'s your idea? I mean about the style of my would-be sent suggestion. I ask it from DrBubb and other guys who read this topic.
Let me confess burning in a dream from childhood has made some unique psychological situations for me, and if you\'d know on the hardship of living in this hell, you\'d never have reckoned my to be stuck in an academic environment.
It\'s clear I\'m not like the Google guys; they are part of a process and by improving a special region of that process (i.e., internet search engines) made much money, but I plan to CREATE a process, for second time: A NEW KIND OF ENGINEERING. You see? A NEW KIND OF ENGINEERING. Pondering on this could bring countless benefits for a \"venture capitalist\", an entity or a person ..
Last remark: I don\'t know how should I tell you I disagree to time travel at this stage of my studies. I repeat again: I THINK TIME TRAVEL IS IMPOSSIBLE.

needle,

You\'re right, but unfortunately DrBubb does not understand (or didn\'t pay enough attention to) the difference between a space travel and time travel. The illustration you said is the same I say to laypeople around myself to describe the concept.
Yes this guy has found the best solution, but you certainly agree anyone who reaches to a stuff, particularly as wild as my case, wants to see its effects. Look, I don\'t want to be thought as a mad scientist as you\'ve watched in many popcorn movies whom is being destroyed by a hero at the end of the film. My desire is clear and if I were in a better PLACE (in the west, in your views), there would no need to telling something which might terrify others, especially if those were realized in a non-democratic regime ...
By the way, if most of the people (and actually) governments would have known the value of doing the right action, BEFORE IT\'S TOO LATE, the world was a much better place than its present conditions, wasn\'t it? Agreed?

Mammad




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